G25-Based Similitud Map
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(02-26-2025, 11:54 PM)jstephan Wrote:
(02-26-2025, 10:44 PM)Riverman Wrote:
(02-26-2025, 10:18 PM)member Wrote: [Image: g25-map.png]

Really don't understand why I always get north Italy + Switzerland + north/central mainland Greece. Are these populations that similar?

They are not that similar, but they have one thing in common: They are a mix of a very Northern and a very Southern ancestral component. In case of Northern Italy it is mostly Celto-Germanic and diverse Mediterranean, in the case of mainland and Peleponnese Greeks it is Slavic and diverse Mediterranean. If the model focusses on North : South ratios, the outcome makes sense I guess.

I guess you have Eastern European/Slavic ancestry though? Because overall you rather tend towards the Eastern model, since your best hits seem to be in Albania/Northern Greece.
Yes, similar ratios of ancient ancestry as Riverman mentioned

If you run 2 of yours most similar populations (Albania & Italia Romagna), they both get similar results on an Iron Age model, similar amount of Illyrian-Like and extra Anatolian + a Northern source (Celto-Germanic for Italians and Balto-Slavic for Albanians)

Calculator : https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculato...ulator.htm

Target :

Albania,0.12224,0.143591,0.017566,-0.015768,0.026394,-0.007339,0.002499,0.001469,0.001507,0.017312,-0.000863,0.003573,-0.00624,0.006284,-0.019308,-0.002097,0.011999,0.000537,0.0074,-0.006184,-0.008088,0.001409,0.002835,0.003358,-0.003032
Italian_Romagna,0.1188,0.1489,0.0147,-0.0198,0.0257,-0.004,-0.0004,0.0006,0.0078,0.0244,-0.0009,0.002,-0.0081,-0.0021,-0.0072,-0.0004,0.0046,0.0007,0.0031,-0.0022,-0.0055,0.0011,-0.0043,0.0063,-0.0001


Target: Italian_Romagna
Distance: 0.2645% / 0.00264508

68.8
Illyrian*(2300-250*BCE)
17.2
Anatolian*(BCE*787-600*CE)
13.4
Germanic
0.6
Balto-Slavic*(BCE*1200-1270*CE)



Target: Albania
Distance: 0.5196% / 0.00519625

66.0
Illyrian*(2300-250*BCE)
18.0
Anatolian*(BCE*787-600*CE)
16.0
Balto-Slavic*(BCE*1200-1270*CE)

Ok, so in my case it just means very low Slavic

Target: member_scaled
Distance: 0.3806% / 0.00380616

Illyrian*(2300-250*BCE) 58.2
Balto-Slavic*(BCE*1200-1270*CE) 25.6
Anatolian*(BCE*787-600*CE) 15.4
Continental_Celtic 0.8
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(02-26-2025, 04:29 PM)jstephan Wrote: It only works fine for people who are not mixed or slightly mixed, else it's going to focus on midpoints.

here is the link : https://www.exploreyourdna.com/similitudeg25.aspx


23andMe:
[Image: SI.png]

Ancestry:
[Image: SIM.png]
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I'm mixed so... I guess it won't really work for me haha
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Looks like I'm North Italian-esque

   
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50.6 Anatolian_&_Balkan_Farmer
38.2 Yamnaya_Pontic-Caspian_Steppe
10.7 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
0.5 North_African_Farmer
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(02-27-2025, 01:45 PM)DeParis Wrote: Looks like I'm North Italian-esque

Is North Italy your usual midpoint ?
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(02-27-2025, 03:31 PM)jstephan Wrote:
(02-27-2025, 01:45 PM)DeParis Wrote: Looks like I'm North Italian-esque

Is North Italy your usual midpoint ?

My closest populations based on G25 runs are North Italians, mainland Greeks, Balkan Turks, Gagauz, etc.
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Had to remove my non-european admixture and simulate it on k36. Looks good. Pretty much the average distance I normaly get on every other calculator.
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Here is my typical “North Sealandic” result

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U152>L2>Z49>Z142>Z150>FGC12381>FGC12378>FGC47869>FGC12401>FGC47875>FGC12384
50% English, 15% Welsh, 15% Scot/Ulster Scot, 5% Irish, 10% German, 2% Fennoscandian 2% French/Dutch, 1% India
Ancient ~40% Anglo-Saxon, ~40% Briton/Insular Celt, ~15% German, 4% Other Euro
600 AD: 55% Anglo-Saxon (CNE), 45% Pre-Anglo-Saxon Briton (WBI)
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My Map Coordinates.
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(03-03-2025, 04:18 PM)Mitchell-Atkins Wrote: Here is my typical “North Sealandic” result

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Just including my 8 closest/darkest circles (Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Orkney, Shetland, England, Netherlands, Denmark)

I plot in the North Sea, 30 miles east of Lynemouth, Northumberland, England, which is just north of Newcastle.
Northumberland is the northernmost English county.

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“Present-day Northumberland formed the core of the Anglian kingdom of Bernicia”
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U152>L2>Z49>Z142>Z150>FGC12381>FGC12378>FGC47869>FGC12401>FGC47875>FGC12384
50% English, 15% Welsh, 15% Scot/Ulster Scot, 5% Irish, 10% German, 2% Fennoscandian 2% French/Dutch, 1% India
Ancient ~40% Anglo-Saxon, ~40% Briton/Insular Celt, ~15% German, 4% Other Euro
600 AD: 55% Anglo-Saxon (CNE), 45% Pre-Anglo-Saxon Briton (WBI)
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Somewhere beyond the sea


   
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(03-03-2025, 06:17 PM)Webb Wrote: My Map Coordinates.

My midpoint is Buriton, Hampshire, England.
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#29
(02-27-2025, 12:31 AM)JMcB Wrote: Here’s mine:

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Do you score higher Celtic on the various calculators compared to Anglo-Saxon/Germanic?  Your map and mine are close.  You have a few more minor red dots into Germany than me, but your darkest dots seem concentrated on both sides of the English Channel.
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(03-04-2025, 03:30 PM)Webb Wrote:
(02-27-2025, 12:31 AM)JMcB Wrote: Here’s mine:

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Do you score higher Celtic on the various calculators compared to Anglo-Saxon/Germanic?  Your map and mine are close.  You have a few more minor red dots into Germany than me, but your darkest dots seem concentrated on both sides of the English Channel.

Depending on the models, I usually come in around 60% Celtic, 35% Germanic and 5% Southern European
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Paper Trail: 42% English, 31.5% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Sicilian & 1.5% French.
LDNA©: Britain & Ireland: 89.3% (51.5% English, 37.8% Scottish & Irish), N.W. Germanic: 7.8%, Europe South: 2.9% (Southern Italy & Sicily)
BigY 700: I1-Z141 >F2642 >Y3649 >Y7198 (c.344 AD) >Y168300 (c.380 AD) >A13248 (c.865 AD) >A13252 (c.1044 AD) >FT81015 (c.1275 AD) >A13243 (c.1620 AD) >FT80854 (c.1700 AD) >FT80630 (1893 AD).
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