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    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

corrigendum Wrote: (Today, 11:53 AM) -- Tora_sama Wrote: (Today, 12:00 AM) --  As soon as there is mass WGS testing or big Y in the Russian Federation, the picture will be clearly different. I think...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 1 hour ago
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

Tora_sama Wrote: (Today, 12:00 AM) -- Guys, it's very important to keep in mind that the statistics on YFull and FTDNA only take into account those who have been tested there and that they are not un...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 2 hours ago
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

To add to what I said before, you can compare the quoted new results per region to get closer to the truth. Like the total average is 4 % for the Northern Russians. But you can see differences of ...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 Yesterday, 09:51 AM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

corrigendum Wrote: (03-25-2025, 10:59 PM) -- Well, this is not correct. The biggest Russian Y-DNA study to date is Balanovsky et al (2008) Two Sources of the Russian Patrilineal Heritage in Their...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 Yesterday, 09:17 AM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

Here the image from the earlier post, hope it stays visible: https://i.ibb.co/HDcv2fBH/Comparison-Ancestral-Path-Z5017vs-Z5018.jpg
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 03-25-2025, 06:09 PM
    Thread: Famous E-M35 persons
Post: RE: Famous E-M35 persons

Capsian20 Wrote: (03-24-2025, 11:49 PM) -- Riverman Wrote: (03-24-2025, 11:41 PM) -- Capsian20 Wrote: (03-24-2025, 11:08 PM) -- Interesting , is seems to me maybe his clususter E-BY88768 or E-SK151...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 31 2,310 03-25-2025, 10:26 AM
    Thread: Famous E-M35 persons
Post: RE: Famous E-M35 persons

Capsian20 Wrote: (03-24-2025, 11:08 PM) -- Riverman Wrote: (03-24-2025, 09:14 PM) -- According to news reports from German magazines, the first cousin once removed of Vladimir Putin is E-V13, which ...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 31 2,310 03-24-2025, 11:41 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

I think the Discover tool of FTDNA can be useful in many ways, especially if comparing various haplogroup branches and their patterns of demographic growth and founder events. Recently I concentra...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 03-24-2025, 11:39 PM
    Thread: Famous E-M35 persons
Post: RE: Famous E-M35 persons

According to news reports from German magazines, the first cousin once removed of Vladimir Putin is E-V13, which makes it highly likely that the Russian president is a member of this haplogroup as wel...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 31 2,310 03-24-2025, 09:14 PM
    Thread: Famous E-M35 persons
Post: RE: Famous E-M35 persons

Those two lineages look Vlach derived at first glance to me, with Z5017 being the most prominent main branch of E-V13 in Vlachs in general and the main central group (Basarabi in the Early Iron Age?) ...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 31 2,310 03-24-2025, 09:10 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

nomad01 Wrote: (03-24-2025, 03:28 PM) -- These are the E samples among East Slavs. Bolshevo is a Krivich, I don't know about the rest. Bolshevo1, Bolshevo-1, near Zagoryansky on the Klyazma river,...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 03-24-2025, 03:46 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

Aspar Wrote: (03-24-2025, 03:17 PM) -- Riverman Wrote: (03-24-2025, 01:21 PM) -- Aspar Wrote: (03-24-2025, 12:54 PM) -- Considering that R1a is 50+% among the ethnic Russians with other haplogroups...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 03-24-2025, 03:27 PM
    Thread: 23andMe files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
Post: RE: 23andMe files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy

I just want the chromosome browser back, that's all I care for ;)
Riverman
Riverman
23andMe 16 718 03-24-2025, 01:49 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

Aspar Wrote: (03-24-2025, 12:54 PM) -- Riverman Wrote: (03-24-2025, 12:31 PM) -- Well, about every 20-30th Russian male is E-V13, in some regions the frequency is even higher. Even around lake Ladog...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 03-24-2025, 01:21 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

Well, about every 20-30th Russian male is E-V13, in some regions the frequency is even higher. Even around lake Ladoga in the North, we got a couple of samples showing around 4-6 % of male Russians fr...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 03-24-2025, 12:31 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

These are the new assignments which go more downstream for the fresh Avar batch at YFull: Downstream of Z5017: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-Y281013/ https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-PH1173...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 03-22-2025, 12:32 PM
    Thread: The Slavic Migration
Post: RE: The Slavic Migration

crashdoc Wrote: (03-19-2025, 11:57 AM) -- okshtunas Wrote: (03-19-2025, 02:48 AM) -- crashdoc Wrote: (03-18-2025, 10:20 PM) -- We've had them on the forum since december, they are included in Ajeje...
Riverman
Riverman
Ancient (aDNA) 155 10,539 03-20-2025, 10:40 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

2 new ones being added to YFull at a basal position, probably due to low coverage: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-V13/
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 03-20-2025, 10:19 PM
    Thread: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data
Post: RE: E-V13 - Theories on its Origin and New Data

YFull added a couple of Avar samples from Hungary (and probably other scientific samples?) and there are new E-V13 members among them, like a rare, probably more Southern branch of E-Z5018 specificall...
Riverman
Riverman
E1b1b-M215 2,323 168,117 03-18-2025, 11:11 PM
    Thread: Origins of M-458
Post: RE: Origins of M-458

Joey37 Wrote: (03-18-2025, 04:55 PM) -- I, on the other hand, am intrigued by the connection of M458 and Dacian.  The majority haplogroup of Dacia, E-V13, is not Indo-European in origin and thus woul...
Riverman
Riverman
R1a-Z283 155 12,604 03-18-2025, 07:27 PM