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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
Post: RE: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Enki Wrote: (10-31-2024, 10:49 AM)
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What could explain the different affinities in Yana, MA1, AG, and DCP1? I doubt there were some groups from an Adriatic refugium crossing polar desert at the hei... |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| we can envisage in the steppe/ steppe forest the Ylines that defines every stage from PIA to core PIE ( Yamnaya)
R1b V1636
I2L 699
R1B M269
R1A M417
these are all WHG/EHG ( or WHG ANE if you prefer... |
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10-31-2024, 10:41 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Арсен Wrote: (10-31-2024, 07:12 AM)
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Niko Wrote: (10-31-2024, 06:46 AM)
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That's crap model, 100% a fail on qpAdm
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most likely due to the fact that in GK there is an excess of Ukrainian Neoli... |
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10-31-2024, 07:23 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| Target: RUS_Nalchik_En:NL122
Distance: 3.6460% / 0.03645965
43.2 RUS_Lower_Don_N
29.6 RUS_Darkveti-Meshoko_En
27.2 AZE_LN
Gabru made this model on Eurogenes early this year. Wonder if he still ... |
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10-31-2024, 06:40 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| this study gives a lot of usuful informations. Still it lacks the fundamental ground breaking news. So far
no R1B M269 south of the Caucasus before the calcolithic
no R1b V1636 south of the Cauc... |
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10-30-2024, 05:49 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| in the study there is something strange. They label the steppe outlier west as having nearly half of its ancestry from Ukraine neolithic. but then in the admixture they gave the satanay ( standard EHG... |
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10-30-2024, 05:43 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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nomad01 Wrote: (10-28-2024, 02:39 PM)
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Is it possible that PIE comes from Ukraine_N males who mixed with CLV females?
1)Sredny stog has Iron Gates/Ukraine HG derived Y-dna and autosomal influenc... |
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10-28-2024, 03:30 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| another one
Target: RUS_Nalchik_En:NL122
Distance: 3.4667% / 0.03466734
39.8 RUS_Darkveti-Meshoko_En
34.6 RUS_Samara_HG
25.6 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_N |
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10-26-2024, 05:10 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Mrarsg13 Wrote: (10-26-2024, 03:28 PM)
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old europe Wrote: (10-26-2024, 03:25 PM)
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well nalchik could be modeled like this FWIW
Target: Nalchik_Eneolithic:NL122
Distance: 3.0639% / 0.030638... |
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10-26-2024, 03:40 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
| well nalchik could be modeled like this FWIW
Target: Nalchik_Eneolithic:NL122
Distance: 3.0639% / 0.03063854 | R5P
49.0 Russia_N_Golubaya_Krinitsa_Lower_Don
37.0 ARM_Aknashen_N
10.6 AZE_Cauca... |
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10-26-2024, 03:25 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Gats Wrote: (10-26-2024, 02:09 PM)
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What North? Nalchik does NOT have Dnieper-Donets admixture. The pre-Aknashen profile of Nalchik was Satanay+CHG (Ekaterinovka-like). Which MEANS. The R1b was the... |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Gats Wrote: (10-26-2024, 01:41 PM)
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old europe Wrote: (10-26-2024, 01:38 PM)
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Gats Wrote: (10-26-2024, 01:28 PM)
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Nope. The language in Krivyansky_GK1 obviously came from the 65% Nalchik admi... |
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10-26-2024, 02:01 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Gats Wrote: (10-26-2024, 01:28 PM)
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old europe Wrote: (10-26-2024, 09:09 AM)
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Gats Wrote: (10-26-2024, 08:44 AM)
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The actual Proto-Proto-Indo-Anatolian is Nalchik. The new samples prove it ba... |
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10-26-2024, 01:38 PM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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Gats Wrote: (10-26-2024, 08:44 AM)
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The actual Proto-Proto-Indo-Anatolian is Nalchik. The new samples prove it basically
PPIA (Nalchik) = 55% Aknashen + 45% Satanay/Ekaterinovka-like
EPIA (Kriv... |
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10-26-2024, 09:09 AM |
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Thread: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
Post: RE: The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans
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ArmandoR1b Wrote: (10-26-2024, 01:43 AM)
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I27983 from Nikitin 2024 - A genomic history of the North Pontic Region from the Neolithic to the Bronze Age is derived for Z260 and upstream markers that ... |
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10-26-2024, 02:34 AM |
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Thread: Basal Eurasian discussion
Post: RE: Basal Eurasian discussion
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kolompar Wrote: (10-25-2024, 05:38 PM)
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The stats are:
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Mbuti.DG Georgia_Kotias_UP.SG Bulgaria_BachoKiro_IUP.AG.BY.AA Bulgaria_BachoKiro_UP.AG.BY.AA 0.0088839 0.00086231 10.3024418 6.87E-... |
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10-25-2024, 06:02 PM |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
Post: RE: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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Gats Wrote: (10-25-2024, 04:55 PM)
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right populations :
'Mbuti.DG','Russia_Yana_UP.SG','Russia_MA1_UP.SG','Bulgaria_BachoKiro_IUP','Germany_Ranis_IUP','Morocco_Iberomaurusian','Georgia_Kotias_UP.... |
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10-25-2024, 04:57 PM |
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Thread: Afro-Asiatic Horners: Lots of Natufian aDNA But Very Little Natufian yDNA or mtDNA
Post: RE: Afro-Asiatic Horners: Lots of Natufian aDNA Bu...
| I think AA came from ANA y lines
They developed in north east Africa
In a Natufian like population as for genome wide ancestry
AA is ultimately from some kind of E yline |
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10-23-2024, 06:42 AM |
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Thread: Afro-Asiatic Horners: Lots of Natufian aDNA But Very Little Natufian yDNA or mtDNA
Post: RE: Afro-Asiatic Horners: Lots of Natufian aDNA Bu...
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Gats Wrote: (10-23-2024, 05:47 AM)
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Was Afro-Asiatic ultimately ANA or Kebaran or pre-Kebaran?
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Y lines say ANA
Autosomal says Natufians
Linguistics mostly say north east Africa |
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10-23-2024, 06:04 AM |
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Thread: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
Post: RE: An attempt at deep West Eurasian phylogeny
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CowboyHG Wrote: (10-23-2024, 04:22 AM)
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Hammas Wrote: (10-22-2024, 01:51 PM)
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CowboyHG Wrote: (10-22-2024, 11:22 AM)
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Although this qpAdm model is chronologically all over the place, it fails... |
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