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    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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crashdoc Wrote: (05-21-2025, 11:24 AM) -- @Inquirer As Tantin said, you need to start with a smaller graph and when it is good, you gradually add more samples to it. To get an idea of what should ...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-21-2025, 12:42 PM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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TanTin Wrote: (05-21-2025, 06:04 AM) -- I can not help much with this. I can congratulate you  that you are able to generate now such diagrams. From my experience: to understand better the struct...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-21-2025, 06:11 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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@crashdoc, @AimSmall, @TanTin Here is my latest graph and its residuals. Please explain to me how exactly I'm supposed to tighten the Z scores to |2|. Kale Wrote: (05-18-2025, 01:21 AM) -- Red...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-21-2025, 05:29 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Kale Wrote: (05-18-2025, 01:21 AM) -- Inquirer Wrote: (05-17-2025, 11:57 PM) -- What do you guys think of my graph? Here are the residual f3 stats. I'm guessing that all of the red is not a good sig...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-18-2025, 04:34 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Kale Wrote: (05-18-2025, 01:21 AM) -- Inquirer Wrote: (05-17-2025, 11:57 PM) -- What do you guys think of my graph? Here are the residual f3 stats. I'm guessing that all of the red is not a good sig...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-18-2025, 01:42 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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I altered my custom graph a bit and added labels. So, it should be easier to understand now. EAMH: Early Anatomically Modern Human AMH: Anatomically Modern Human AEA: Ancestral East African ANEA: A...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-17-2025, 11:57 PM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Kale Wrote: (05-17-2025, 02:32 PM) -- With such divergent lineages mixing together it's a very delicate balancing act of getting the ancestry proportions right, being off by just a small amount can h...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-17-2025, 04:34 PM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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kolompar Wrote: (05-16-2025, 09:54 PM) -- Norfern-Ostrobothnian Wrote: (05-15-2025, 03:19 PM) -- I don't think finding an exact mixture of West and East African for modeling Takarkori is that import...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-17-2025, 04:37 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Apart from R1b-V88, what haplogroups do Central North Africans, such as those in Chad (e.g. Maba, Mada, Bulala, Daza, etc) carry?
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-16-2025, 04:16 PM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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FormosanAristocrat Wrote: (05-16-2025, 06:34 AM) -- I heard there are low-coverage Gobero genomes. What do you guys think about this? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrDPsjDbUAAbW4o?format=png -- I'm lo...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-16-2025, 08:02 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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kolompar Wrote: (05-15-2025, 01:28 PM) -- Still not quite but we are getting there. None of the Saharan populations seem to have the right ratio of West/East African, maybe that's just what's the pro...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-15-2025, 09:58 PM
    Thread: If there are studies with data that hasnt been converted to G25 provide them here
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This is a bit off topic, but I recall getting the ZAF G25 coordinates from someone on Anthrogenica. However, I don't recall their ultimate source and I cannot find them in the official G25 spreadsheet...
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Ancient (aDNA) 1,004 119,456 05-14-2025, 06:31 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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ustar1 Wrote: (05-13-2025, 06:18 AM) -- Mnemonics Wrote: (05-13-2025, 06:04 AM) -- I think there is a way to proxy out the real West African in Takarkori from the vaguely West African like affinity....
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-13-2025, 07:00 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Kale Wrote: (05-13-2025, 03:58 AM) -- Mnemonics Wrote: (05-12-2025, 10:44 PM) -- It's better to keep all the sources on the left .SG and the right pops .AG in this case since it should cancel out th...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-13-2025, 04:28 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Mnemonics Wrote: (05-13-2025, 02:24 AM) -- Inquirer Wrote: (05-13-2025, 01:11 AM) -- Mnemonics Wrote: (05-12-2025, 10:18 PM) -- You have two African-American samples in the right pops which are hur...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-13-2025, 03:47 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Mnemonics Wrote: (05-12-2025, 10:18 PM) -- Inquirer Wrote: (05-12-2025, 04:45 PM) -- Mnemonics Wrote: (05-12-2025, 01:29 PM) -- I think that the issue is you are using the more Baggara Arab shifted...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-13-2025, 01:11 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Mnemonics Wrote: (05-12-2025, 01:29 PM) -- Inquirer Wrote: (05-12-2025, 12:01 PM) -- Mnemonics Wrote: (05-12-2025, 07:38 AM) -- You have a lot of very low snp count samples in the right pops get ri...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-12-2025, 04:45 PM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Mnemonics Wrote: (05-12-2025, 07:38 AM) -- Inquirer Wrote: (05-12-2025, 06:37 AM) -- @Mnemonics I did two qpAdm runs on TKH with the Bulala sample by identifying it with its ID# (1319). The first r...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-12-2025, 12:01 PM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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TanTin Wrote: (05-12-2025, 11:19 AM) -- Inquirer Wrote: (05-12-2025, 06:08 AM) -- I merged the AfricanDG file and the Takarkori files to the v62_AADR_1240K file via Plink. However, I'm getting an er...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-12-2025, 11:31 AM
    Thread: Human genomes from the Green Sahara reveal ancestral North African lineage
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Mnemonics Wrote: (05-12-2025, 07:38 AM) -- Inquirer Wrote: (05-12-2025, 06:37 AM) -- @Mnemonics I did two qpAdm runs on TKH with the Bulala sample by identifying it with its ID# (1319). The first...
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Ancient (aDNA) 228 15,734 05-12-2025, 09:15 AM