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Just tested my wife, she has this mt-dna, I noticed some of you also do have .
Her maternal origin is from northwest Portugal.
My guess for the migration path of this lineage is something like: Gravettian(any U4 among them?) -> WHG -> EHG -> Yamnaya (there is one Maykop sample too under this clade) -> Corded Ware? -> Unetice -> Nordic Bronze age(1 sample from bronze age south sweden) -> Goths -> Visigoths(1 sample U4c1).
If any of you know of more samples with the mt dna let me know.

I4141 from Czechia 1201-935 BCE
RISE412 from Armenia 1201-935 BCE
US-14 from USA 1700 CE

Thanks, the armenian sample reinforces my belief in a yamnaya mediation for this lineage.

(01-30-2025, 10:27 PM)Sephesakueu Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks, the armenian sample reinforces my belief in a yamnaya mediation for this lineage.

its seems to me this sample has 1/4 ancestry Yamnaya , maybe it's related with spread Y-DNA R-Z2103 ?

Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps: 66.94 %
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara: 21.70 %
Levant_PPNB: 7.13 %
MAR_Taforalt: 3.26 %
Yoruba: 0.94 %
BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP: 0.02 %

I am also U4c1 but without the (a).

Yes,probably,  it is a Yamnaya lineage.

The oldest known U4c1 specimens are: "poz224", from the Yamnaya culture (2882-2698 BC), and 2 Bell Beakers from Germany (Karsdorf, 2314-2042 BC).
Another from the U4c1a branch was discovered in Sweden, and is part of the Battle Axe culture, affiliated with the Corded Ware culture (2620-2470 BC).

So my conclusion is:
Haplogroup U4c1 is rather rare today, but present throughout Europe. It originated in the Ukrainian Steppes, from the Yamnaya culture, and was dispersed with the so-called "Indo-European" invasions, around 2700 BC throughout Europe.

Although the invaders from the Steppes were overwhelmingly male, a few women accompanied them, including those carrying haplogroup U4.