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A wiki discussing the Y-DNA and mtDNA of Mayflower passengers, their spouses, and the spouses of their children and grandchildren can be found at:  https://mayflowerdna.org/wiki/index.php/...mtDNA_wiki

Would be nice get some results from New Sweden colonists.

The Mayflower-site has regular technical issues or loads slowly, but many of the results, also sometimes more up to date, being also published in the Mayflower DNA group project at FTDNA:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/may...s-overview

The FTDNA Mayflower DNA project only examines the Y-DNA and mtDNA of Mayflower passengers and their spouses. It does not attempt to document the spouses of the children and grandchildren (yet).

[Edit]: In addition, the FTDNA projects pages are limited in their flexibility as well as what you can document. The wiki can accommodate virtually anything, text, graphics, etc.  For instance, the wiki includes a few generations of descendants (typically around 3-4) for each family.

(01-16-2025, 10:34 PM)wing genealogist Wrote: [ -> ]The FTDNA Mayflower DNA project only examines the Y-DNA and mtDNA of Mayflower passengers and their spouses. It does not attempt to document the spouses of the children and grandchildren (yet).

Do we know how closely John Wing and John Howard were related?  I just noticed ancestors of both men specify M157, and FTDNA Discover has that as estimated forming around 1583 (rounded to 1600) which is around their estimated birth dates! (see my sig)

(01-16-2025, 10:55 PM)Dewsloth Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-16-2025, 10:34 PM)wing genealogist Wrote: [ -> ]The FTDNA Mayflower DNA project only examines the Y-DNA and mtDNA of Mayflower passengers and their spouses. It does not attempt to document the spouses of the children and grandchildren (yet).

Do we know how closely John Wing and John Howard were related?  I just noticed ancestors of both men specify M157, and FTDNA Discover has that as estimated forming around 1583 (rounded to 1600) which is around their estimated birth dates! (see my sig)

M157 is only found in the Wing family.  The common haplogroup for the Wing and Howland families is S10415. According to FTDNA this haplogroup dates back to 450 BCE, so they are not all that close at all.

(01-16-2025, 11:06 PM)wing genealogist Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-16-2025, 10:55 PM)Dewsloth Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-16-2025, 10:34 PM)wing genealogist Wrote: [ -> ]The FTDNA Mayflower DNA project only examines the Y-DNA and mtDNA of Mayflower passengers and their spouses. It does not attempt to document the spouses of the children and grandchildren (yet).

Do we know how closely John Wing and John Howard were related?  I just noticed ancestors of both men specify M157, and FTDNA Discover has that as estimated forming around 1583 (rounded to 1600) which is around their estimated birth dates! (see my sig)

M157 is only found in the Wing family.  The common haplogroup for the Wing and Howland families is S10415. According to FTDNA this haplogroup dates back to 450 BCE, so they are not all that close at all.

Yep, you're right:  I looked at the wrong line.  He's the closest listed "notable" to M157, but not M157:
John Howland
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1598 - 1673 CE
Shared Ancestor
350 CE
You and John Howland share a common paternal line ancestor who lived around this time.
Rare Connection
1 in 3,500
Only 193 customers are this closely related to John Howland.