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09-08-2024, 10:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-08-2024, 10:18 PM by Moeca.)
using the T ydna I could find with G25
Villabruna , below is not a T ydna
Distance to: Moeca_scaled
0.02875907 Pannonii_G25 .............................IIRC sample SZ36 ID
0.02901411 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL23
0.03530015 Venetic_Illyrians_G25 .................an ancient bordering istria and slovenia
0.05546599 Dalmatia_Žirje_Island_scaled ..............Liburnian island
0.06106589 Sweden_Viking.SG:VK398_noUDG.SG
0.06369852 Dalmatia_Zlarin_Island_scaled ............an area where daunians originate before going to foggia italy
0.09653736 Longobards_G25 .................ussure, could be a ostrogoth sample
0.17781874 Italy_Salapia_Daunian.SG
0.17861217 Bulgaria_MalakPreslavets_N_oLowEEF:I1108 ..............neolitihc T sample, related to the 3 x Karsdorf and Derenberg neolitihic samples from Harz mountain
0.37858301 ITA_Villabruna ...............not a T sample, just used as a reference
Target: Moeca_scaled
Distance: 0.0132% / 0.01321240
51.8 Venetic_Illyrians_G25
18.0 Sweden_Viking.SG
14.8 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2
14.1 Dalmatia_Zlarin_Island_scaled
0.7 ITA_Villabruna
0.6 Bulgaria_MalakPreslavets_N_oLowEEF
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Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Aenona Dalmatia
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09-09-2024, 10:06 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2024, 10:09 PM by Moeca.)
found a few more T ydna to match with
Bold text are T ydna samples
Distance to: Moeca_scaled
0.02098513 Liburnian_Aenona_G25_scaled .............Rib-L2
0.02204589 Illyrian_Smiljan_EIA:I24639
0.02875907 Pannonii_G25_SZ36
0.02901411 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL23
0.03530015 Venetic_Illyrians_G25 .......................Catali tribe
0.03585050 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.03692624 Illyrian_Velika_MLBA:I13169
0.03872244 Illyrian_Jazinka_LBA_EIA:I26742
0.04121846 Illyrian_South_G25
0.05488493 Iazyges_G25
0.05546599 Liburnian_Gradina_Žirje_Island_scaled
0.05858597 Brac_Zlarin_Island_scaled
0.06106589 Sweden_Viking.SG:VK398_noUDG.SG
0.06369852 Brac_Zlarin_Island_scaled
0.11549623 Russia_Viking.SG:VK17_noUDG.SG
0.17781874 Italy_Salapia_Daunian.SG
0.17861217 Bulgaria_MalakPreslavets_N_oLowEEF:I1108
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Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Aenona Dalmatia
Posts: 264
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Y-DNA (P): T1a2 - Y79536
Y-DNA (M): H95a
09-10-2024, 11:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-10-2024, 11:18 PM by Moeca.)
(08-20-2024, 10:24 PM)Moeca Wrote: 3 more ancient T ydna found in Varna Culture ( modern black sea Bulgaria )
Golden man is T1a1 haplogroup, while these 3 ancient samples are all under T1a2 haplogroup
VAR010 Bulgaria MT:U5a'b
VAR022 Bulgaria MT:H1e
VAR032 Bulgaria MT:K1a19
There is also 2 x T1a1 ydna in Malek Bulgaria ( on the Danube ) which are associated with the 4 X T1a1 neolithic samples from around the Harz mountains Germany ( Karsdorf and Derenberg )
These 3 ancient T-L446 samples are from North-Pontic area ...............not sure exactly where that is
VAR016:
mtDNA: T1a
Y-DNA: T1a1
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06334-8
Many T ydna branches in Varna culture ( black sea Bulgaria )
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Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Aenona Dalmatia
Posts: 264
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Y-DNA (P): T1a2 - Y79536
Y-DNA (M): H95a
09-11-2024, 01:34 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-11-2024, 01:35 AM by Moeca.)
using MTA matches I have with the G25 that I found with them
Distance to: Moeca_scaled
0.02098513 Liburnian_Aenona_G25_I26726_scaled
0.02204589 Illyrian_Smiljan_EIA:I24639
0.02762802 Croatia_Sipar_SG
0.02901411 Italy_North_CL23_Langobards_
0.03426400 Illyrian_North_G25
0.03585050 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.03636959 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18747
0.03692624 Illyrian_Velika_MLBA:I13169
0.03872244 Illyrian_Jazinka_LBA_EIA:I26742
0.04615322 Montenegro_MLBA:I13167
0.05546599 Liburnian_Gradina_Žirje_Island_scaled
0.05858597 Brac_Zlarin_Island_scaled
0.06106589 Sweden_Viking.SG:VK398_noUDG.SG
0.06369852 Brac_Zlarin_Island_scaled
0.11549623 Russia_Viking.SG:VK17_noUDG.SG
0.15250155 Germany_LN_Karsdorf
0.17781874 Italy_Salapia_Daunian.SG
0.17861217 Bulgaria_MalakPreslavets_N_oLowEEF:I1108
Target: Moeca_scaled
Distance: 0.0150% / 0.01504253 | R5P
33.8 Italy_North_CL23_Langobards_
23.0 Illyrian_Smiljan_EIA
16.2 Brac_Zlarin_Island_scaled
13.6 Liburnian_Aenona_G25_I26726_scaled
13.4 Croatia_Sipar_SG
********************
Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Aenona Dalmatia
Posts: 264
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Y-DNA (P): T1a2 - Y79536
Y-DNA (M): H95a
09-14-2024, 01:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-14-2024, 01:32 AM by Moeca.)
Distance to: Pretis_g25_scaled
0.00000137 Liburnian_Aenona_G25_I26726_scaled
0.01705456 Illyrian_North_G25
0.02014181 Croatia_Sipar_Roman.SG
0.02174286 Illyrian_Smiljan_EIA:I24639
0.02281115 Celt_Carni_G25
0.02448893 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.02582576 Illyrian_Jazinka_LBA_EIA:I26742
0.02752002 Liburnia_Aenona_Picene_o.SG:R1.SG__BC_882__Cov_97.74%
0.02926394 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18747
0.02930739 Illyrian_Gruda:I13169
0.02985755 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL23
0.03322968 Illyria_Velika:I13172
0.03505199 Montenegro_MLBA:I13167
0.03803103 Italy_Ordona_Daunian.SG:ORD009.SG__BC_547__Cov_60.35%
0.04611008 Italy_North_BellBeaker_3:I2478
0.04694130 Iazyges_Messapic_G25
0.05170742 Liburnian_Gradina_Žirje_Island_scaled
0.05329706 Italy_Ordona_Daunian.SG:ORD014.SG__BC_557__Cov_10.25%
0.05668260 Brac_Zlarin_Island_scaled
0.05820175 Italy_Ordona_Daunian.SG:ORD006.SG__BC_626__Cov_11.11%
0.06210565 Italy_North_BellBeaker_1:I1979__BC_2065__Cov_32.59%
0.06316521 Sweden_Viking.SG:VK398_noUDG.SG
0.06413154 Italy_Daunian:SGR002__BC_591__Cov_9.23%
0.06755711 Brac_Zlarin_Island_scaled
0.07032375 Italy_Salapia_Daunian.SG:SAL003.SG
Target: Pretis_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.0002% / 0.00020649
92.5 Liburnian_Aenona_G25_I26726_scaled
1.2 Liburnian_Gradina_Žirje_Island_scaled
1.1 Croatia_Sipar_Roman.SG
0.7 Illyrian_Jazinka_LBA_EIA
0.7 Italy_North_BellBeaker_3
0.6 Croatia_MBA_Cetina
0.6 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2
0.5 Italy_Salapia_Daunian.SG
0.5 Liburnia_Aenona_Picene_o.SG
0.4 Illyrian_Gruda
0.4 Italy_Daunian
0.3 Italy_Ordona_Daunian.SG
0.2 Germany_LN_Karsdorf
0.2 Scythian_UKR_MJ14
0.1 Sweden_Viking.SG
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Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Aenona Dalmatia
Posts: 264
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Ethnicity: Italian
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Y-DNA (P): T1a2 - Y79536
Y-DNA (M): H95a
Distance to: Pretis_g25_scaled
0.01869710 Croatia_EIA:I23995
0.01908703 Croatia_MBA:I5080
0.01956803 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2210.SG
0.02072315 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18745
0.02157630 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R33.SG
0.02174286 Croatia_EIA:I24639
0.02276825 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R105.SG
0.02285180 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I25510
0.02325208 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite:SE-114.SG
0.02334909 Croatia_EIA:I23911
0.02338523 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I18834
0.02348787 Hungary_MidAvar:TMH-756.SG
0.02360252 Albania_BA_IA:I14690
0.02374484 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL94
0.02383359 Hungary_LaTene:I18491
0.02405817 Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman_oLevant.SG:R10660.SG
0.02410092 Croatia_EIA:I5729
0.02428031 Croatia_MBA:I26774
0.02444711 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R55.SG
0.02444727 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R61.SG
0.02448893 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.02461161 Hungary_Langobard_o2:SZ28
0.02471461 Croatia_EIA:I23904
0.02489068 Croatia_MLBA:I18737
0.02500169 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2206.SG
Distance to: Moeca_scaled
0.02204589 Croatia_EIA:I24639
0.02260336 Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman_oLevant.SG:R10660.SG
0.02369514 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R105.SG
0.02410066 Czech_LBA_Knoviz_o3:I13786
0.02497874 Hungary_EarlyAvar:MS-45.SG
0.02510065 Germany_EMedieval_Alemanic_SEurope:NIEcap3b
0.02539247 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R33.SG
0.02584360 Czech_IA_LaTene:I17139
0.02604537 Croatia_Scitarjevo_Roman.SG:R3659.SG
0.02626736 Austria_IA_LaTene:I11701
0.02635540 Hungary_LateAvar:OBH-52.SG
0.02640692 Hungary_EarlyAvar:MS-43.SG
0.02662337 Hungary_MidAvar:MS-50.SG
0.02740522 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18745
0.02745951 Italy_IA_Republic_o.SG:R1.SG
0.02765766 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R61.SG
0.02771269 Croatia_MLBA:I18729
0.02792540 Germany_BellBeaker:I5524
0.02815205 Hungary_MidAvar:KD-29.SG
0.02818913 Hungary_LateAvar:ALT-414.SG
0.02833393 Croatia_MLBA:I18737
0.02869005 Croatia_Mursa_Roman.SG:R3655.SG
0.02901411 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL23
0.02903576 Croatia_BA:I18712
0.02907990 Macedonia_IA:I10385
Distance to: TorzioG25
0.01568122 Croatia_MBA:I5080
0.01883511 Croatia_EIA:I23995
0.01919686 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2210.SG
0.02046509 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18745
0.02173157 Croatia_EIA:I5729
0.02180798 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I25510
0.02195069 Slovenia_EIA:I5692
0.02197641 Croatia_Sipar_Roman.SG:R2045.SG
0.02197953 Croatia_MBA:I26774
0.02262100 Croatia_EIA:I24639
0.02267351 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R33.SG
0.02298058 Hungary_Langobard_o2:SZ28
0.02310918 Croatia_MLBA:I18737
0.02357589 Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R474.SG
0.02360067 Hungary_MidAvar:TMH-756.SG
0.02367856 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I18834
0.02386003 Hungary_LBA:I25504
0.02397645 Albania_BA_IA:I14690
0.02412398 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL94
0.02413915 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.02416146 Croatia_EIA:I23911
0.02448652 Croatia_MLBA:I18727
0.02470372 Croatia_EIA:I24638
0.02476464 Croatia_EIA:I24882
0.02513181 Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros.SG:MOK29A.SG
Distance to: Vitore_G25_scaled
0.01848236 Croatia_EIA:I23995
0.01923912 Croatia_MBA:I5080
0.01924947 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2210.SG
0.02054389 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18745
0.02156933 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R33.SG
0.02171813 Croatia_EIA:I24639
0.02257536 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R105.SG
0.02267220 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I25510
0.02273683 Croatia_EIA:I23911
0.02311979 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL94
0.02312975 Hungary_MidAvar:TMH-756.SG
0.02338934 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I18834
0.02352746 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite:SE-114.SG
0.02384433 Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman_oLevant.SG:R10660.SG
0.02386936 Croatia_EIA:I5729
0.02392275 Albania_BA_IA:I14690
0.02397057 Hungary_LaTene:I18491
0.02402702 Croatia_MBA:I26774
0.02422662 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R61.SG
0.02440125 Hungary_Langobard_o2:SZ28
0.02462867 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R55.SG
0.02467122 Croatia_MLBA:I18737
0.02476983 Croatia_EIA:I23904
0.02481667 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.02504612 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2206.SG
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Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Aenona Dalmatia
Posts: 264
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Joined: Mar 2024
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Italian
Nationality: Australian
Y-DNA (P): T1a2 - Y79536
Y-DNA (M): H95a
(09-14-2024, 11:05 PM)Moeca Wrote: Distance to: Pretis_g25_scaled
0.01869710 Croatia_EIA:I23995
0.01908703 Croatia_MBA:I5080
0.01956803 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2210.SG
0.02072315 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18745
0.02157630 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R33.SG
0.02174286 Croatia_EIA:I24639
0.02276825 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R105.SG
0.02285180 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I25510
0.02325208 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite:SE-114.SG
0.02334909 Croatia_EIA:I23911
0.02338523 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I18834
0.02348787 Hungary_MidAvar:TMH-756.SG
0.02360252 Albania_BA_IA:I14690
0.02374484 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL94
0.02383359 Hungary_LaTene:I18491
0.02405817 Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman_oLevant.SG:R10660.SG
0.02410092 Croatia_EIA:I5729
0.02428031 Croatia_MBA:I26774
0.02444711 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R55.SG
0.02444727 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R61.SG
0.02448893 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.02461161 Hungary_Langobard_o2:SZ28
0.02471461 Croatia_EIA:I23904
0.02489068 Croatia_MLBA:I18737
0.02500169 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2206.SG
Distance to: Moeca_scaled
0.02204589 Croatia_EIA:I24639
0.02260336 Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman_oLevant.SG:R10660.SG
0.02369514 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R105.SG
0.02410066 Czech_LBA_Knoviz_o3:I13786
0.02497874 Hungary_EarlyAvar:MS-45.SG
0.02510065 Germany_EMedieval_Alemanic_SEurope:NIEcap3b
0.02539247 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R33.SG
0.02584360 Czech_IA_LaTene:I17139
0.02604537 Croatia_Scitarjevo_Roman.SG:R3659.SG
0.02626736 Austria_IA_LaTene:I11701
0.02635540 Hungary_LateAvar:OBH-52.SG
0.02640692 Hungary_EarlyAvar:MS-43.SG
0.02662337 Hungary_MidAvar:MS-50.SG
0.02740522 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18745
0.02745951 Italy_IA_Republic_o.SG:R1.SG
0.02765766 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R61.SG
0.02771269 Croatia_MLBA:I18729
0.02792540 Germany_BellBeaker:I5524
0.02815205 Hungary_MidAvar:KD-29.SG
0.02818913 Hungary_LateAvar:ALT-414.SG
0.02833393 Croatia_MLBA:I18737
0.02869005 Croatia_Mursa_Roman.SG:R3655.SG
0.02901411 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL23
0.02903576 Croatia_BA:I18712
0.02907990 Macedonia_IA:I10385
Distance to: TorzioG25
0.01568122 Croatia_MBA:I5080
0.01883511 Croatia_EIA:I23995
0.01919686 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2210.SG
0.02046509 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18745
0.02173157 Croatia_EIA:I5729
0.02180798 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I25510
0.02195069 Slovenia_EIA:I5692
0.02197641 Croatia_Sipar_Roman.SG:R2045.SG
0.02197953 Croatia_MBA:I26774
0.02262100 Croatia_EIA:I24639
0.02267351 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R33.SG
0.02298058 Hungary_Langobard_o2:SZ28
0.02310918 Croatia_MLBA:I18737
0.02357589 Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R474.SG
0.02360067 Hungary_MidAvar:TMH-756.SG
0.02367856 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I18834
0.02386003 Hungary_LBA:I25504
0.02397645 Albania_BA_IA:I14690
0.02412398 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL94
0.02413915 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.02416146 Croatia_EIA:I23911
0.02448652 Croatia_MLBA:I18727
0.02470372 Croatia_EIA:I24638
0.02476464 Croatia_EIA:I24882
0.02513181 Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros.SG:MOK29A.SG
Distance to: Vitore_G25_scaled
0.01848236 Croatia_EIA:I23995
0.01923912 Croatia_MBA:I5080
0.01924947 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2210.SG
0.02054389 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18745
0.02156933 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R33.SG
0.02171813 Croatia_EIA:I24639
0.02257536 Italy_LA_o1CentralEuropean.SG:R105.SG
0.02267220 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I25510
0.02273683 Croatia_EIA:I23911
0.02311979 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_2:CL94
0.02312975 Hungary_MidAvar:TMH-756.SG
0.02338934 Hungary_IA_LaTene:I18834
0.02352746 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite:SE-114.SG
0.02384433 Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman_oLevant.SG:R10660.SG
0.02386936 Croatia_EIA:I5729
0.02392275 Albania_BA_IA:I14690
0.02397057 Hungary_LaTene:I18491
0.02402702 Croatia_MBA:I26774
0.02422662 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R61.SG
0.02440125 Hungary_Langobard_o2:SZ28
0.02462867 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R55.SG
0.02467122 Croatia_MLBA:I18737
0.02476983 Croatia_EIA:I23904
0.02481667 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.02504612 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.SG:R2206.SG
all from my data from different sites
Pretis = FtDna BigY........a year old
Moeca = 5 years old plus G25 from 23andme V3 version
Torzio = Ftdna pre 2018 BigY
Vitore = NatGeno data 2012 ...........gave me an early snp ...........site closed now
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Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Aenona Dalmatia
Posts: 264
Threads: 3
Joined: Mar 2024
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Italian
Nationality: Australian
Y-DNA (P): T1a2 - Y79536
Y-DNA (M): H95a
10-04-2024, 11:02 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2024, 11:04 PM by Moeca.)
Distance to: VPretavg
0.00417751 Liburnian_Aenona_G25_I26726_scaled
0.01454456 Illyrian:EalyIronAge
0.01498730 Liburnian-mainland_G25
0.01851552 Pannonii_SZ36_G25
0.01900725 Illyrian_North_G25
0.02000674 Illyrian_Smiljan_EIA:I24639
0.02017616 Croatia_Sipar_Roman.SG
0.02049204 Illyrian:MiddleBronzeAge
0.02051630 Japodes_G25
0.02302940 Celt_Carni_G25
0.02554101 Rhaetic_mixed_G25_scaled
0.02559274 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18746
0.02686644 Liburnia_Aenona_Picene_o.SG:R1.SG__BC_882__Cov_97.74%
0.02737574 Illyrian_Jazinka_LBA_EIA:I26742
0.02758977 Alpine_Celts_G25
0.02909837 Italy_North_Longobards_2:CL23
0.02967983 Illyrian_Gruda:I13169
0.03028139 Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18747
0.03070124 Illyrian_South_G25
0.03205550 Illyria_Velika:I13172
0.03247607 Venetic_mixed_G25
0.03652514 Montenegro_MLBA:I13167
0.03751352 Getae_G25
0.04007866 Italy_Ordona_Daunian.SG:ORD009.SG__BC_547__Cov_60.35%
0.04444734 Italy_North_BellBeaker_3:I2478
Target: VPretavg
Distance: 0.0021% / 0.00206455
49.0 Liburnian_Aenona_G25_I26726_scaled
19.3 Venetic_mixed_G25
4.3 Liburnian_Gradina_Brac_Island_scaled
4.0 Croatia_Sipar_Roman.SG
3.9 Italy_North_BellBeaker_3
3.2 Illyrian_Smiljan_EIA
3.0 Longobards_G25
2.9 Boii_G25
2.6 Sweden_Viking.SG
2.2 Italy_Salapia_Daunian.SG
1.5 Italy_Ordona_Daunian.SG
1.5 Liburnia_Aenona_Picene_o.SG
1.1 Russia_Viking.SG
0.7 ITA_Remedello_BA
0.3 Illyrian_Gruda
0.2 Brac_Zlarin_Island_scaled
0.2 Italy_North_Longobards_2
0.1 Germany_LN_Karsdorf
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Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
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professor Anatole Klyosov(rodstvo),wrote about the unusual phenomenon of the similarity of two basal haplotypes of Y-DNA haplogroups R1a and T1a.
There is a match of 15/22 Y-STR markers between the following values:
12 12 13 - 11 11 - 11 - 11 8 16 16 8 10 8 12 10 12 12 8 12 11 11 12 (R1a)
11 12 13 - 11 13 - 9 - 11 8 17 17 8 10 8 1210 12 12 8 11 12 11 12 (T1a)
The feeling that T - is an early R1a1, which mutated DYS426 12 -> 11,but DYS392 = 13 survived from ancient R1a1 (by the way, is the same and R1b).
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Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
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(10-12-2024, 09:02 PM)Moeca Wrote: professor Anatole Klyosov(rodstvo),wrote about the unusual phenomenon of the similarity of two basal haplotypes of Y-DNA haplogroups R1a and T1a.
There is a match of 15/22 Y-STR markers between the following values:
12 12 13 - 11 11 - 11 - 11 8 16 16 8 10 8 12 10 12 12 8 12 11 11 12 (R1a)
11 12 13 - 11 13 - 9 - 11 8 17 17 8 10 8 1210 12 12 8 11 12 11 12 (T1a)
The feeling that T - is an early R1a1, which mutated DYS426 12 -> 11,but DYS392 = 13 survived from ancient R1a1 (by the way, is the same and R1b).
You should quit genetic genealogy. For good.
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(10-12-2024, 10:05 PM)Pribislav Wrote: (10-12-2024, 09:02 PM)Moeca Wrote: professor Anatole Klyosov(rodstvo),wrote about the unusual phenomenon of the similarity of two basal haplotypes of Y-DNA haplogroups R1a and T1a.
There is a match of 15/22 Y-STR markers between the following values:
12 12 13 - 11 11 - 11 - 11 8 16 16 8 10 8 12 10 12 12 8 12 11 11 12 (R1a)
11 12 13 - 11 13 - 9 - 11 8 17 17 8 10 8 1210 12 12 8 11 12 11 12 (T1a)
The feeling that T - is an early R1a1, which mutated DYS426 12 -> 11,but DYS392 = 13 survived from ancient R1a1 (by the way, is the same and R1b).
You should quit genetic genealogy. For good.
You mean he should.
I just found this 2015 article and placed it for "reference"
You need to learn who to direct your comments at ............I forgive you this time
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Maternal side yDna branch is R1b - S8172
Paternal Grandfather mother's line is I1- Z131 - A9804
Veneto 75.8%, Austria 5%, Saarland 3.4%, Friuli 3.2%, Trentino 2.6%, Donau Schwaben 1%, Marche 0.8%
BC Ancient Sites I am connected to, Wels Austria, Sipar Istria and Aenona Dalmatia
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