Myheritage *NOT* updating results

[muttgenes]

I'm actually quite glad the update seems at least to be stuck.  It's crap.  They did the update on one of my four kits there -- the actual MyHeritage-based one -- but thankfully they haven't yet updated the other three (based on kits from Ancestry, 23andMe, and FTDNA).

The update on the MyHeritage kit shows four ancestries:  English, French, Germanic, and Dutch.  English I have, but not at 51.9%; most of my British ancestry is Scottish and Scots-Irish, but even my total British and Irish combined is significantly less than 50%.  The other three ancestries are French (24.1%), Germanic (17.0%), and Dutch (7.0%).

I have a very small amount of French ancestry, maybe about 3%.  However, both of my maternal grandmother's grandfathers immigrated to America from the island of Menorca.  I can see Catalan ancestry showing up as French, but that still shouldn't be much more than an additional 12.5% or thereabouts.  In addition, one of my grandmother's grandmothers was from Alsace-Lorraine.  She possibly would show up as either German or French, but even without her I have a lot more German ancestry than 17%.  So let's say she shows up as French.  That would make MyHeritage's number at least vaguely plausible.

The German, as I said, is low.  Over a third of my ancestry consists of German Palatines who immigrated to America during the colonial era.  

Dutch is unique to MyHeritage.  I've taken tests from several different companies and no one has ever found any Dutch.  None of MH's other analyses shows Dutch.  I doubt it exists.  It certainly doesn't exist in my paper trail.

Finally, MH's update smooths over several other ancestries easier found in their previous update based on their own file, and the current analyses based on the other three files; plus Ancestry's own analyses based on two different administrations of the test, 23andMe's analysis based on my v2-v3-v5 tests, FTDNA's analysis, and LivingDNA's analysis.

What's missing?  How about Iberian, West Asian or Anatolian, and Indigenous American.  Of these, Iberian and Indigenous American can both be found in my paper trail; the former of these appears at all of the other companies I mentioned, and the latter appears at all of them except LivingDNA.  LivingDNA used to be the worst of the companies, in my opinion, at least for my ancestry; but MH has now achieved that distinction.

I’m 25% French on paper, via my maternal grandma. Out of my personal three kits, I show maybe 2% French and another 2% Breton. My swab kit shows no French at all, despite matching my grandma at 22% DNA. It’s all EE, Germanic, Danish and Baltic. The EE/Baltic mix from my maternal grandfather snuffs a lot of mix out. 

Grandma’s kit is roughly 60% French, 15% Spanish, 10% Breton and the rest English. 

LivingDNA is the same almost laughable, my side by side with grandma is 22% DNA but only 3% France while grandma has 90% France. 

The only two tests for me that seem the best at reading “recently” mixed individuals (like 1-3 generations) have been Ancestry (14% France and my other Scandinavian/German mix from my dad’s side) and 23andMe (very similar to Ancestry, 22% F&G from grandma, ~12% Scandinavian and the rest is more F&G from my paternal German grandma or EE from both grandfathers, paternal was mixed Polish and Scandinavian).

FTDNA does not read German/Scandinavian correctly, it assigns this as 33% English for me. Central Europe is 13% for me, hard telling if it’s French or German. I also have 9% Scandinavian there, so who knows what the English assignment actually is. 

Beyond that (maybe) three generation threshold it gets weird, no doubt.

I'm approximately 75% German on paper (both grandmothers spoke German growing up) and 6-7% Norwegian (2nd Great Grandmother was first born in US). FTDNA has me as 67% Central European and 8% Scandinavia so I thought it was actually pretty accurate with the German/Scandinavian.

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I'm actually quite glad the update seems at least to be stuck.  It's crap.  They did the update on one of my four kits there -- the actual MyHeritage-based one -- but thankfully they haven't yet updated the other three (based on kits from Ancestry, 23andMe, and FTDNA).

The update on the MyHeritage kit shows four ancestries:  English, French, Germanic, and Dutch.  English I have, but not at 51.9%; most of my British ancestry is Scottish and Scots-Irish, but even my total British and Irish combined is significantly less than 50%.  The other three ancestries are French (24.1%), Germanic (17.0%), and Dutch (7.0%).

I have a very small amount of French ancestry, maybe about 3%.  However, both of my maternal grandmother's grandfathers immigrated to America from the island of Menorca.  I can see Catalan ancestry showing up as French, but that still shouldn't be much more than an additional 12.5% or thereabouts.  In addition, one of my grandmother's grandmothers was from Alsace-Lorraine.  She possibly would show up as either German or French, but even without her I have a lot more German ancestry than 17%.  So let's say she shows up as French.  That would make MyHeritage's number at least vaguely plausible.

The German, as I said, is low.  Over a third of my ancestry consists of German Palatines who immigrated to America during the colonial era.  

Dutch is unique to MyHeritage.  I've taken tests from several different companies and no one has ever found any Dutch.  None of MH's other analyses shows Dutch.  I doubt it exists.  It certainly doesn't exist in my paper trail.

Finally, MH's update smooths over several other ancestries easier found in their previous update based on their own file, and the current analyses based on the other three files; plus Ancestry's own analyses based on two different administrations of the test, 23andMe's analysis based on my v2-v3-v5 tests, FTDNA's analysis, and LivingDNA's analysis.

What's missing?  How about Iberian, West Asian or Anatolian, and Indigenous American.  Of these, Iberian and Indigenous American can both be found in my paper trail; the former of these appears at all of the other companies I mentioned, and the latter appears at all of them except LivingDNA.  LivingDNA used to be the worst of the companies, in my opinion, at least for my ancestry; but MH has now achieved that distinction.

I’m 25% French on paper, via my maternal grandma. Out of my personal three kits, I show maybe 2% French and another 2% Breton. My swab kit shows no French at all, despite matching my grandma at 22% DNA. It’s all EE, Germanic, Danish and Baltic. The EE/Baltic mix from my maternal grandfather snuffs a lot of mix out. 

Grandma’s kit is roughly 60% French, 15% Spanish, 10% Breton and the rest English. 

LivingDNA is the same almost laughable, my side by side with grandma is 22% DNA but only 3% France while grandma has 90% France. 

The only two tests for me that seem the best at reading “recently” mixed individuals (like 1-3 generations) have been Ancestry (14% France and my other Scandinavian/German mix from my dad’s side) and 23andMe (very similar to Ancestry, 22% F&G from grandma, ~12% Scandinavian and the rest is more F&G from my paternal German grandma or EE from both grandfathers, paternal was mixed Polish and Scandinavian).

FTDNA does not read German/Scandinavian correctly, it assigns this as 33% English for me. Central Europe is 13% for me, hard telling if it’s French or German. I also have 9% Scandinavian there, so who knows what the English assignment actually is. 

Beyond that (maybe) three generation threshold it gets weird, no doubt.

I'm approximately 75% German on paper (both grandmothers spoke German growing up) and 6-7% Norwegian (2nd Great Grandmother was first born in US). FTDNA has me as 67% Central European and 8% Scandinavia so I thought it was actually pretty accurate with the German/Scandinavian.

Maybe the French and German throws it off in my case. My German background is North German - from Hanover to Schwerin, mostly centered around and NW of Hanover. Maybe that throws it off. 

33% English is 33% too much given my paper trail 

[muttgenes]

I’m 25% French on paper, via my maternal grandma. Out of my personal three kits, I show maybe 2% French and another 2% Breton. My swab kit shows no French at all, despite matching my grandma at 22% DNA. It’s all EE, Germanic, Danish and Baltic. The EE/Baltic mix from my maternal grandfather snuffs a lot of mix out. 

Grandma’s kit is roughly 60% French, 15% Spanish, 10% Breton and the rest English. 

LivingDNA is the same almost laughable, my side by side with grandma is 22% DNA but only 3% France while grandma has 90% France. 

The only two tests for me that seem the best at reading “recently” mixed individuals (like 1-3 generations) have been Ancestry (14% France and my other Scandinavian/German mix from my dad’s side) and 23andMe (very similar to Ancestry, 22% F&G from grandma, ~12% Scandinavian and the rest is more F&G from my paternal German grandma or EE from both grandfathers, paternal was mixed Polish and Scandinavian).

FTDNA does not read German/Scandinavian correctly, it assigns this as 33% English for me. Central Europe is 13% for me, hard telling if it’s French or German. I also have 9% Scandinavian there, so who knows what the English assignment actually is. 

Beyond that (maybe) three generation threshold it gets weird, no doubt.

I'm approximately 75% German on paper (both grandmothers spoke German growing up) and 6-7% Norwegian (2nd Great Grandmother was first born in US). FTDNA has me as 67% Central European and 8% Scandinavia so I thought it was actually pretty accurate with the German/Scandinavian.

Maybe the French and German throws it off in my case. My German background is North German - from Hanover to Schwerin, mostly centered around and NW of Hanover. Maybe that throws it off. 

33% English is 33% too much given my paper trail 

That could definitely do it. My German background is Alsace, Saarland, Wurttemberg, and a little bit North mixed with Dutch, all migrated in the mid to late 19th century and predominantly Germans from Russia who have submitted a lot of studies to companies along with DNA. My English/Irish/Scottish paper trail is all colonial and nearly all of it with mixed race families so I can't even take a guess at how accurate they are on that. My guess would be your Northern German was lumped with the English.

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I'm actually quite glad the update seems at least to be stuck.  It's crap.  They did the update on one of my four kits there -- the actual MyHeritage-based one -- but thankfully they haven't yet updated the other three (based on kits from Ancestry, 23andMe, and FTDNA).

The update on the MyHeritage kit shows four ancestries:  English, French, Germanic, and Dutch.  English I have, but not at 51.9%; most of my British ancestry is Scottish and Scots-Irish, but even my total British and Irish combined is significantly less than 50%.  The other three ancestries are French (24.1%), Germanic (17.0%), and Dutch (7.0%).

I have a very small amount of French ancestry, maybe about 3%.  However, both of my maternal grandmother's grandfathers immigrated to America from the island of Menorca.  I can see Catalan ancestry showing up as French, but that still shouldn't be much more than an additional 12.5% or thereabouts.  In addition, one of my grandmother's grandmothers was from Alsace-Lorraine.  She possibly would show up as either German or French, but even without her I have a lot more German ancestry than 17%.  So let's say she shows up as French.  That would make MyHeritage's number at least vaguely plausible.

The German, as I said, is low.  Over a third of my ancestry consists of German Palatines who immigrated to America during the colonial era.  

Dutch is unique to MyHeritage.  I've taken tests from several different companies and no one has ever found any Dutch.  None of MH's other analyses shows Dutch.  I doubt it exists.  It certainly doesn't exist in my paper trail.

Finally, MH's update smooths over several other ancestries easier found in their previous update based on their own file, and the current analyses based on the other three files; plus Ancestry's own analyses based on two different administrations of the test, 23andMe's analysis based on my v2-v3-v5 tests, FTDNA's analysis, and LivingDNA's analysis.

What's missing?  How about Iberian, West Asian or Anatolian, and Indigenous American.  Of these, Iberian and Indigenous American can both be found in my paper trail; the former of these appears at all of the other companies I mentioned, and the latter appears at all of them except LivingDNA.  LivingDNA used to be the worst of the companies, in my opinion, at least for my ancestry; but MH has now achieved that distinction.

I’m 25% French on paper, via my maternal grandma. Out of my personal three kits, I show maybe 2% French and another 2% Breton. My swab kit shows no French at all, despite matching my grandma at 22% DNA. It’s all EE, Germanic, Danish and Baltic. The EE/Baltic mix from my maternal grandfather snuffs a lot of mix out. 

Grandma’s kit is roughly 60% French, 15% Spanish, 10% Breton and the rest English. 

LivingDNA is the same almost laughable, my side by side with grandma is 22% DNA but only 3% France while grandma has 90% France. 

The only two tests for me that seem the best at reading “recently” mixed individuals (like 1-3 generations) have been Ancestry (14% France and my other Scandinavian/German mix from my dad’s side) and 23andMe (very similar to Ancestry, 22% F&G from grandma, ~12% Scandinavian and the rest is more F&G from my paternal German grandma or EE from both grandfathers, paternal was mixed Polish and Scandinavian).

FTDNA does not read German/Scandinavian correctly, it assigns this as 33% English for me. Central Europe is 13% for me, hard telling if it’s French or German. I also have 9% Scandinavian there, so who knows what the English assignment actually is. 

Beyond that (maybe) three generation threshold it gets weird, no doubt.

I'm really with you on the part I bolded (not that I disagree on your other points either).

MyOrigins says my dad -- who is roughly 2/3 German and 1/3 British and Irish (actually, mostly as Scottish and Scots-Irish) -- claims he's 95% England, Wales, and Scotland.  This would mean he'd have to have passed on at least 45% to me, since Family Finder definitely shows that he's indeed my father (as does 23andMe).  But here's the amount of England, Wales, and Scotland MyOrigins says I have:  a mere 4%!

Of my five full siblings, my #1 brother has 40%, or 5% less than the minimum he'd have to have; my #2 brother has 19%, or 26% less than the minimum; and my #1 sister has 26%, or 19% less.  Only my #2 and #3 sisters have more than the required minimum that my father could have passed on to them if he has 95% England, Wales, and Scotland.  (Which he doesn't.)

[trelvern]

Update, update, update….
Yes but when?

Message from’My Heritage today:


Thank you for being in touch. My name is Edwin and I'm happy to help you.

I understand that your MyHeritage DNA results are different than you expected.

We are excited to announce a major update to our Ethnicity Estimate model that will expand our percentage-based ethnicities from 42 to 79.

This update will not only increase the quantity but also the quality of the percentage-based ethnicities. We are improving their accuracy, and this means better resolution.

If in the past you got an ethnicity that grouped several regions because we kept them at a higher regional level due to the statistical data that we had in the past, now we will be able to better define your Ethnicity.

Due to the extensive database, we are introducing the new Ethnicity Estimate model in incremental stages.

So I kindly suggest that you wait until the new Ethnicity Estimate model is ready in your account and if you still have any questions about the results please contact us again.

Thanks for your patience.

Kind regards,
Edwin
MyHeritage Support team

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From My Heritage

« We are working to provide this new update to all our users. This release is gradual so not all users will get this available at the same time. There is no specific date when this will be available for you.

Once the new update is ready on your account, you will receive a confirmation email letting you know about it so you can check it yourself.»

[Mabrams]

Update, update, update….
Yes but when?

Message from’My Heritage today:


Thank you for being in touch. My name is Edwin and I'm happy to help you.

I understand that your MyHeritage DNA results are different than you expected.

We are excited to announce a major update to our Ethnicity Estimate model that will expand our percentage-based ethnicities from 42 to 79.

This update will not only increase the quantity but also the quality of the percentage-based ethnicities. We are improving their accuracy, and this means better resolution.

If in the past you got an ethnicity that grouped several regions because we kept them at a higher regional level due to the statistical data that we had in the past, now we will be able to better define your Ethnicity.

Due to the extensive database, we are introducing the new Ethnicity Estimate model in incremental stages.

So I kindly suggest that you wait until the new Ethnicity Estimate model is ready in your account and if you still have any questions about the results please contact us again.

Thanks for your patience.

Kind 
Edwin
MyHeritage Support team

Many of us received this update already.   June, I believe.   My estimate is based upon 79 ethnicities, of which I have 5.   

For me, much better than the previous set of MH ethnicities, which were pretty strange.

[Nqp15hhu]

Still not updated.

[Kellebel]

Sigh.. "Soon" they say.. What's their definition of "soon"? In-a-couple-of-weeks-"soon"? Or one-day-we'll-be-living-on-mars-"soon"?

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Sigh.. "Soon" they say.. What's their definition of "soon"? In-a-couple-of-weeks-"soon"? Or one-day-we'll-be-living-on-mars-"soon"?

https://familytreewebinars.com/webinar/l...scoveries/

at about 50 minutes in the video : January 2025...