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11-26-2024, 11:35 PM
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I've been working on this for a little bit. It's waiting for information from papers like McColl, but I thought I'd throw the draft up, now.
They are numbered in rough chron order by midpoint of their papers' date estimates, and is listed as the second number after their map designation.
These are all the known DF19 samples from 400 BCE-1100 CE.
#2, the only "old" one from inside the Cremation Zone, is a bog weapon sacrifice (thank goodness for wet bogs). ##2, 3 and 5 are from McColl. Roman use of DF19 members in auxiliary units that would be posted away from their homelands (Eboracum, Klosterneuburg) seems consistent with a group hailing from the Frisii>Batavi>Chamavi>Chatti>Suebi etc. areas, especially after the Batavi Revolt.
Samples:
-------------------Roman Conquest of Britain 43-87 CE ------------------------
------------------- Batavi Revolt 69-70 CE ----------------------------
1 76 R10657 26 - 126 calCE Klosterneuburg, Austria DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257/S9287 Batavi Auxiliary Roman Horse Burial
2 149.5 CGG019200 64-235 CE Denmark Jutland Illerup DF19>Z302 (mtNDA T2b) weapon_sacrifice_site bog_skeleton
3 150 CGG107761 CL013 (I037) 50 calBCE - 250 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery DF19>DF88 (mtDNA K1a3a1) unknown IronAge Roman
4 173 MIJ-1 120-226 CE Igási Járandó, Hungary DF19>Z302 (mtDNA H2a2b) Sarmatian, Early-Middle Sarmatian
5 179 CGG107763 CL006 (I079) 125 - 233 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery DF19>DF88 (mtDNA U5a2c1) unknown IronAge Roman
6 220 FEN012 40-400 CE Fenstanton, Cambridgeshire, England DF19 (mtDNA J1c1b) Unknown, Roman
7 250 6DT23 c.250 CE Driffield Terrace, York, England DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075>Z43034 (mtDNA H6a1b2) H Roman Britain Auxiliary? Roman Horse Burial
8 300 RKF263 100-500 CE? Rákóczifalva, Hungary DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (mtDNA H) Sarmatian ally? Langobard/Goth descendant? Sarmatian Period
9 400 RMPR31 400 CE Mausoleo di Augusto, Rome DF19>Z302>FT292232>FT11655>Z8193>BY3448>Z39459 (mtDNA K1c1*) Unknown Roman/Migration
10 530 HID001 530 CE Hiddestorf, Germany DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY107827 Saxons, Franks or Thuringians? Migration Elite Germanic Horse Burial
11 530 HID002 530 CE Hiddestorf, Germany DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281 (mtDNA H15a1) Saxons, Franks or Thuringians? Migration Elite Germanic Horse Burial
12 550 I20271 400-700 CE Girona, Pla de l'Horta, Spain DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (mtDNA H55b) Visigoth Migration
13 600 IND002 400-800 CE Alt-Inden, North Rhine, Westphalia, Germany DF19>Z302>Z39292 (mtDNA V3c) Franks? Migration
14 650? MGS231; Moedling, Austria; Avar Period; R1b-DF19>Z302* (xFT11655,Z39292)
15 712.5 KOS017 651-774 CE Koksijde, Belgium DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257>Z43277>Z43258>Z43261>Z43468 (mtDNA U4b1a3a) Gaul?+Saxon Migration/ME
16 746.5 KOS016 671-822 CE Koksijde, Belgium DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380>BY42641>L719>Z30475 (mtDNA HV0a) Gaul?+Saxon Migration/ME
17 750 I17277 600-900 CE Hartlepool, Olive St, Durham, England DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075>S10067 (mtDNA K2a6) Saxon? Migration/ME
18 885 VK333 885 ± 69 CE Vickleby, Oland, Sweden DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149>Z17125>Z17123>Z29034 (mtDNA H2a2a1) Viking Viking
19a 1100 OLV072 1100 CE Sint-Truiden, Belgium DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>PH3649 (mtDNA H1b) Local Lotharingian/Frank
19b 1100 PCA0299 1000-1200 CE Groszowice, Opole, Poland DF19>DF88 (mtDNA K1a) Unknown ME
R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149
Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583; John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593; John Wing (U106>Z8>Z1) b1584; John Howland (U106>Z8>Z1) b1593; Elizabeth Tilley (Howland) (H1a1 mtDNA) b1607; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635
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What they "look like"
1 76 R10657 26 - 126 calCE Klosterneuburg, Austria DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257/S9287 Batavi Auxiliary Roman Horse Burial
Distance to: Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman.SG:R10657.SG
0.02813068 Norwegian
0.02823455 Icelandic
0.03048686 Danish
0.03214715 Swedish
0.03217286 Irish
2 149.5 CGG019200 64-235 CE Denmark Jutland Illerup DF19>Z302 (mtNDA T2b) weapon_sacrifice_site bog_skeleton
McColl
3 150 CGG107761 CL013 (I037) 50 calBCE - 250 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery DF19>DF88 (mtDNA K1a3a1) unknown IronAge Roman
McColl
4 173 MIJ-1 120-226 CE Igási Járandó, Hungary DF19>Z302 (mtDNA H2a2b) Sarmatian, Early-Middle Sarmatian
5 179 CGG107763 CL006 (I079) 125 - 233 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery DF19>DF88 (mtDNA U5a2c1) unknown IronAge Roman
McColl
6 220 FEN012 40-400 CE Fenstanton, Cambridgeshire, England DF19 (mtDNA J1c1b) Unknown, Roman
too damaged to G25
7 250 6DT23 c.250 CE Driffield Terrace, York, England DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>S17075>Z43034 (mtDNA H6a1b2) H Roman Britain Auxiliary? Roman Horse Burial
Distance to: England_IA_Roman.SG:6DT23_noUDG.SG
0.02733852 English
0.02768602 English_Cornwall
0.02793600 Orcadian
0.02846960 Scottish
0.02990979 Welsh
8 300 RKF263 100-500 CE? Rákóczifalva, Hungary DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (mtDNA H) Sarmatian ally? Langobard/Goth descendant? Sarmatian Period
Distance to: Avars_o:RKF263.A0101.TF1
0.03020622 Swiss_Italian
0.03115359 Italian_Emilia
0.03119033 Turkish_North_Macedonia
0.03161156 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
0.03253035 Greek_Thessaly
9 400 RMPR31 400 CE Mausoleo di Augusto, Rome DF19>Z302>FT292232>FT11655>Z8193>BY3448>Z39459 (mtDNA K1c1*) Unknown Roman/Migration
Distance to: Italy_LA_o3CentralEuropean.SG:R31.SG
0.03408741 Welsh
0.03456611 Dutch
0.03501668 Danish
0.03597682 English
0.03657443 French_Brittany
10 530 HID001 530 CE Hiddestorf, Germany DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY107827 Saxons, Franks or Thuringians? Migration Elite Germanic Horse Burial
Distance to: Germany_Hiddestorf_Saxon_EMedieval:HID001.A_noUDG
0.02297087 Danish
0.02337675 Icelandic
0.02351198 Swedish
0.02373921 Norwegian
0.02814319 German_Hamburg
11 530 HID002 530 CE Hiddestorf, Germany DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281 (mtDNA H15a1) Saxons, Franks or Thuringians? Migration Elite Germanic Horse Burial
Distance to: Germany_Hiddestorf_Saxon_EMedieval:HID002.A_noUDG
0.02938784 Icelandic
0.03242395 Danish
0.03279009 Norwegian
0.03321079 Scottish
0.03334235 Orcadian
12 550 I20271 400-700 CE Girona, Pla de l'Horta, Spain DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (mtDNA H55b) Visigoth Migration
13 600 IND002 400-800 CE Alt-Inden, North Rhine, Westphalia, Germany DF19>Z302>Z39292 (mtDNA V3c) Franks? Migration
Distance to: Germany_AltInden_Saxon_EMedieval:IND002.A_noUDG
0.02264101 BelgianA
0.02328871 French_Brittany
0.02399635 Orcadian
0.02429743 Welsh
0.02462195 English_Cornwall
14 650? MGS231; Moedling, Austria; Avar Period; R1b-DF19>Z302* (xFT11655,Z39292)
Distance to: MoedlingAdGS_AvarPeriod:MGS231.A0101
0.03144151 Austrian
0.03269904 Slovenian
0.03295591 Croatian
0.03401228 Hungarian
0.03515338 German_Erlangen
15 712.5 KOS017 651-774 CE Koksijde, Belgium DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257>Z43277>Z43258>Z43261>Z43468 (mtDNA U4b1a3a) Gaul?+Saxon Migration/ME
Distance to: Belgium_Koksijde_EarlyMedieval:KOS017
0.02158222 BelgianA
0.02169650 Welsh
0.02214603 Dutch
0.02257332 English_Cornwall
0.02330370 Afrikaner
16 746.5 KOS016 671-822 CE Koksijde, Belgium DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380>BY42641>L719>Z30475 (mtDNA HV0a) Gaul?+Saxon Migration/ME
Distance to: Belgium_Koksijde_EarlyMedieval:KOS016
0.02698365 BelgianA
0.02767302 Dutch
0.02777836 Welsh
0.02830738 German
0.02908913 English_Cornwall
17 750 I17277 600-900 CE Hartlepool, Olive St, Durham, England DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z21380>BY42641>Z41639>S18811 (mtDNA K2a6) Saxon? Migration/ME
Distance to: England_EarlyMedieval:I17277
0.02699482 Irish
0.02703895 Icelandic
0.02790791 Norwegian
0.02890241 Scottish
0.02932753 Danish
18 885 VK333 885 ± 69 CE Vickleby, Oland, Sweden DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149>Z17125>Z17123>Z29034 (mtDNA H2a2a1) Viking Viking
Distance to: Sweden_Viking.SG:VK333_noUDG.SG
0.02424628 BelgianB
0.02580733 French_Paris
0.02660003 French_Nord
0.02662887 French_Alsace
0.02699225 BelgianC
19a 1100 OLV072 1100 CE Sint-Truiden, Belgium DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>PH3649 (mtDNA H1b) Local Lotharingian/Frank
Distance to: Belgium_Sint-Truiden_EarlyMedieval:OLV072
0.03600109 BelgianC
0.03650125 French_Alsace
0.03699030 French_Nord
0.03727777 BelgianA
0.03764858 BelgianB
19b 1100 PCA0299 1000-1200 CE Groszowice, Opole, Poland DF19>DF88 (mtDNA K1a) Unknown ME
R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149
Distance to: 1000-1200_AD_Groszowice_PCA0299  CA0299
0.06669859 Swedish
0.06825464 Danish
0.06840512 Icelandic
0.06971251 German_Hamburg
0.06976141 Norwegian
R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149
Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583; John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593; John Wing (U106>Z8>Z1) b1584; John Howland (U106>Z8>Z1) b1593; Elizabeth Tilley (Howland) (H1a1 mtDNA) b1607; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635
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FWIW, the geographic midpoint of your 4 oldest locations
1 76 R10657 26 - 126 calCE Klosterneuburg, Austria DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257/S9287 Batavi Auxiliary Roman Horse Burial
2 149.5 CGG019200 64-235 CE Denmark Jutland Illerup DF19>Z302 (mtNDA T2b) weapon_sacrifice_site bog_skeleton
3 150 CGG107761 CL013 (I037) 50 calBCE - 250 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery DF19>DF88 (mtDNA K1a3a1) unknown IronAge Roman
4 173 MIJ-1 120-226 CE Igási Járandó, Hungary DF19>Z302 (mtDNA H2a2b) Sarmatian, Early-Middle Sarmatian
is Jirkov, Czech Rep.
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(11-27-2024, 01:06 AM)Mitchell-Atkins Wrote: FWIW, the geographic midpoint of your 4 oldest locations
1 76 R10657 26 - 126 calCE Klosterneuburg, Austria DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257/S9287 Batavi Auxiliary Roman Horse Burial
2 149.5 CGG019200 64-235 CE Denmark Jutland Illerup DF19>Z302 (mtNDA T2b) weapon_sacrifice_site bog_skeleton
3 150 CGG107761 CL013 (I037) 50 calBCE - 250 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery DF19>DF88 (mtDNA K1a3a1) unknown IronAge Roman
4 173 MIJ-1 120-226 CE Igási Járandó, Hungary DF19>Z302 (mtDNA H2a2b) Sarmatian, Early-Middle Sarmatian
is Jirkov, Czech Rep.
IIRC (and Ambiorix knows more about this than I do) I think 3 and 5 (both Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery) are suspected by some to be Frisian prisoners or slaves? They were apparently bigger/taller than most burials. Maybe when McColl comes out we will find out more.
I have a ton of questions about the two from the Sarmatian region...
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11-27-2024, 01:38 AM
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If I move that Dutch one
Quote:CGG107761 CL013 (I037) 50 calBCE - 250 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery
to one of the Central Frisian Islands, the midpoint moves to just northwest of Dresden, Germany
N 51.147129
E 13.519244
Here's the direct link
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(11-27-2024, 01:38 AM)Mitchell-Atkins Wrote: If I move that Dutch one
Quote:CGG107761 CL013 (I037) 50 calBCE - 250 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery
to one of the Central Frisian Islands, the midpoint moves to just northwest of Dresden, Germany
N 51.147129
E 13.519244
Here's the direct link
Marcomanni territory on the map, in the "other" Saxony. I'd love to find uncremated burials from there.
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(11-27-2024, 01:23 AM)Dewsloth Wrote: (11-27-2024, 01:06 AM)Mitchell-Atkins Wrote: FWIW, the geographic midpoint of your 4 oldest locations
1 76 R10657 26 - 126 calCE Klosterneuburg, Austria DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257/S9287 Batavi Auxiliary Roman Horse Burial
2 149.5 CGG019200 64-235 CE Denmark Jutland Illerup DF19>Z302 (mtNDA T2b) weapon_sacrifice_site bog_skeleton
3 150 CGG107761 CL013 (I037) 50 calBCE - 250 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery DF19>DF88 (mtDNA K1a3a1) unknown IronAge Roman
4 173 MIJ-1 120-226 CE Igási Járandó, Hungary DF19>Z302 (mtDNA H2a2b) Sarmatian, Early-Middle Sarmatian
is Jirkov, Czech Rep.
IIRC (and Ambiorix knows more about this than I do) I think 3 and 5 (both Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery) are suspected by some to be Frisian prisoners or slaves? They were apparently bigger/taller than most burials. Maybe when McColl comes out we will find out more.
I have a ton of questions about the two from the Sarmatian region...
^pleasant surprise to see my name invoked after so long! I am only now starting to find time back on here after doing research for my thesis and balancing that with work (I have sorely missed this site!). RE: the two Valkenburg DF88 samples, my recollection was that they were typical locals with entirely ENS-derived genetic profiles (corroborated by Fig. 6.3.1.1 of McColl et al.), but your remarks helped jog my memory of this paper covering some of the inhumations at Valkenburg-Marktveld ( (PDF) STRONTIUM ISOTOPE ANALYSIS ON INHUMATIONS FROM THE ROMAN CEMETERY OF VALKENBURG-MARKTVELD | Coen Geerdink - Academia.edu) - some pertinent information concerning some of the burials:
Quote:"The buried bodies displayed exceptional tallness for that time, with an average length of 175,9 and 159,3 centimeters for males and females respectively (Lonnée and Maat 1998). Evidence for scurvy (15%), enamel hypoplasia (43%) and cribra orbitalia (45%) showed that the inhumated individuals suffered from chronic anaemia and chronic infections caused by a diet that lacked nutritious components like vitamin C and iron, possibly in combination with lead-poisoning (Smits 2006; Lonnée and Maat 1998)" (p. 13).
Quote:"Body length is known from 7 inhumated individuals, 5 of which are non-local (appendix 3.4). Three male non-locals are slightly taller than the locals. The only (non-local)
woman is smaller than the men, but taller than the female average (NB N=2). The eldest person in the study (non-local), exhibits the highest Sr ratio, the most extreme body
postulation and is shortest in body length. The exceptional average tallness - 175,9 and 159,3 centimeter for males and females respectively - in combination with the physical
anthropological indications for heavy labour made Lonnée and Maat (1998) suggest that the inhumated individuals could have been local (Dutch) immigrant workers. The results
of the Sr analysis do not refute this suggestion" (p. 33).
Quote:"Based on fig. 3.5 the ratios of the group non-locals with ratios between 0,70901 and 0,71100 do not exclude provenance from the Netherlands or Northern Germany. This is consistent with theories of scholars who believe that the body length of the buried individuals indicate North European descend. Suggested is that they may represent poor immigrant workers from somewhere in the Netherlands or captured Chauks, warriors of a tribe from Northern Germania that raided Valkenburg repeatedly (Lonnée and Maat 1998; De Bruin 2009, personal communication). Age distribution of the buried non-locals and physical anthropological characteristics do not refute either possibility" (p. 36).
Information on the strontium isotope values for other samples are listed in Tables 3.1 (p. 27) and 4.1 (p. 37), but I did not notice any specific mention of the two DF88+ samples (I037 and I079)  fingers crossed for the data from McColl et al. (2024) being released soon!
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(11-28-2024, 12:10 AM)Ambiorix Wrote: (11-27-2024, 01:23 AM)Dewsloth Wrote: (11-27-2024, 01:06 AM)Mitchell-Atkins Wrote: FWIW, the geographic midpoint of your 4 oldest locations
1 76 R10657 26 - 126 calCE Klosterneuburg, Austria DF19>DF88>FGC11833>S4281>S4268>Z17112>Z27257/S9287 Batavi Auxiliary Roman Horse Burial
2 149.5 CGG019200 64-235 CE Denmark Jutland Illerup DF19>Z302 (mtNDA T2b) weapon_sacrifice_site bog_skeleton
3 150 CGG107761 CL013 (I037) 50 calBCE - 250 calCE Netherlands South-Holland Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery DF19>DF88 (mtDNA K1a3a1) unknown IronAge Roman
4 173 MIJ-1 120-226 CE Igási Járandó, Hungary DF19>Z302 (mtDNA H2a2b) Sarmatian, Early-Middle Sarmatian
is Jirkov, Czech Rep.
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IIRC (and Ambiorix knows more about this than I do) I think 3 and 5 (both Valkenburg Marktveld Roman Cemetery) are suspected by some to be Frisian prisoners or slaves? They were apparently bigger/taller than most burials. Maybe when McColl comes out we will find out more.
I have a ton of questions about the two from the Sarmatian region...
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^pleasant surprise to see my name invoked after so long! I am only now starting to find time back on here after doing research for my thesis and balancing that with work (I have sorely missed this site!). RE: the two Valkenburg DF88 samples, my recollection was that they were typical locals with entirely ENS-derived genetic profiles (corroborated by Fig. 6.3.1.1 of McColl et al.), but your remarks helped jog my memory of this paper covering some of the inhumations at Valkenburg-Marktveld ( (PDF) STRONTIUM ISOTOPE ANALYSIS ON INHUMATIONS FROM THE ROMAN CEMETERY OF VALKENBURG-MARKTVELD | Coen Geerdink - Academia.edu) - some pertinent information concerning some of the burials:
Quote:"The buried bodies displayed exceptional tallness for that time, with an average length of 175,9 and 159,3 centimeters for males and females respectively (Lonnée and Maat 1998). Evidence for scurvy (15%), enamel hypoplasia (43%) and cribra orbitalia (45%) showed that the inhumated individuals suffered from chronic anaemia and chronic infections caused by a diet that lacked nutritious components like vitamin C and iron, possibly in combination with lead-poisoning (Smits 2006; Lonnée and Maat 1998)" (p. 13).
Quote:"Body length is known from 7 inhumated individuals, 5 of which are non-local (appendix 3.4). Three male non-locals are slightly taller than the locals. The only (non-local)
woman is smaller than the men, but taller than the female average (NB N=2). The eldest person in the study (non-local), exhibits the highest Sr ratio, the most extreme body
postulation and is shortest in body length. The exceptional average tallness - 175,9 and 159,3 centimeter for males and females respectively - in combination with the physical
anthropological indications for heavy labour made Lonnée and Maat (1998) suggest that the inhumated individuals could have been local (Dutch) immigrant workers. The results
of the Sr analysis do not refute this suggestion" (p. 33).
Quote:"Based on fig. 3.5 the ratios of the group non-locals with ratios between 0,70901 and 0,71100 do not exclude provenance from the Netherlands or Northern Germany. This is consistent with theories of scholars who believe that the body length of the buried individuals indicate North European descend. Suggested is that they may represent poor immigrant workers from somewhere in the Netherlands or captured Chauks, warriors of a tribe from Northern Germania that raided Valkenburg repeatedly (Lonnée and Maat 1998; De Bruin 2009, personal communication). Age distribution of the buried non-locals and physical anthropological characteristics do not refute either possibility" (p. 36).
Information on the strontium isotope values for other samples are listed in Tables 3.1 (p. 27) and 4.1 (p. 37), but I did not notice any specific mention of the two DF88+ samples (I037 and I079) fingers crossed for the data from McColl et al. (2024) being released soon!
Thank you! So I was conflating two separate data points for Valkenburg Marktveld burials - my apologies; and bring on the McColl paper!
It's interesting to see which of the burials above already look like the modern locals in those locations, and which don't.
Driffield, Mödling, the two Hiddestorfers, Alt-Inden, the two Koksijders and Sint Truiden could roughly be locals, today.
Not so much for Klosterneuburg, Mausoleo di Augusto and Groszowice.
Looking the next oldest sample from before these, he also seems displaced as he's found in Hallstatt-era Bohemia, but doesn't look like the other contemporary burials from that location. Instead he's already like a bunch of these Roman/post-Roman ones, like Klosterneuburg. I wish we could get isotopic date on him:
Distance to: CZE_IA_Hallstatt_low_res:I17607
0.05102056 Shetlandic
0.05129168 Norwegian
0.05308385 Danish
0.05321413 Swedish
0.05363158 Icelandic
0.05386979 Irish
0.05390662 Scottish
0.05473496 Orcadian
0.05745426 Dutch
0.05770628 English
R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149
Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583; John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593; John Wing (U106>Z8>Z1) b1584; John Howland (U106>Z8>Z1) b1593; Elizabeth Tilley (Howland) (H1a1 mtDNA) b1607; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635
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