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09-23-2024, 07:31 PM
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My map of Poles in the Kingdom of Prussia during the 19th century:
https://i.imgur.com/ARmMk0o.png
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10-08-2024, 12:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-08-2024, 01:13 PM by Tomenable.)
Some G25 coordinates of Poles from Prussian Poland (except Kashubs and Silesians because they are already in G25 datasheet):
Code: Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpSouth1,0.12862,0.137096,0.061471,0.053295,0.044316,0.018686,0.00799,0.009692,0.001023,-0.017495,-0.002111,-0.004646,0.010852,0.016377,-0.006515,-0.012066,-0.009257,0.004054,0.000754,-0.005753,-0.004866,0.001237,0.002342,0.001205,-0.002155
Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpSouth2,0.130897,0.128972,0.069013,0.057817,0.043393,0.018686,0.012926,0.006231,0.001432,-0.02041,-0.002436,-0.009891,0.017245,0.018717,-0.004886,0.003447,0.002738,0,-0.000754,-0.007379,0.000749,-0.005317,0.004683,0.00482,-0.001437
Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpSouth4,0.135449,0.13405,0.067127,0.057817,0.044008,0.022869,0.008695,0.013615,0.002659,-0.017495,-0.003085,-0.001049,0.01442,0.021882,-0.00665,0.008221,0.00339,-0.002154,0.004902,5e-04,-0.003868,-0.006306,0.005546,0.002289,-0.002275
Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpNorth1,0.135449,0.141159,0.067505,0.060401,0.03139,0.026216,0.0094,0.005077,-0.002454,-0.015308,-0.009581,-0.008692,0.014866,0.017753,-0.00475,-0.000796,0.005085,-0.000127,-0.000503,0.003252,-0.006863,-0.00507,0.010106,0.004579,-0.001916
Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpNorth2,0.124067,0.125926,0.069767,0.059755,0.040007,0.023427,0.00893,0.009,0.007158,-0.024602,-0.003735,-0.006444,0.013082,0.017203,-0.012622,0.006099,-0.001434,-0.000633,0.004148,0.013006,-0.002496,-0.005564,0.008134,0.004699,-0.005149
Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpNorth3,0.133173,0.135065,0.06939,0.05814,0.027697,0.019243,0.00658,0.006692,-0.001841,-0.02041,-0.004872,-0.007793,0.014271,0.007707,-0.008415,0.017369,0.014864,0,0.002137,0.004877,-0.006364,-0.000618,0.011462,0.006145,-0.002036
Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpNorth4,0.136588,0.137096,0.073916,0.062662,0.032621,0.024542,0.006345,0.002538,-0.004704,-0.020775,0.001299,-0.005545,0.009217,0.010597,-0.002443,-0.003182,0.002608,-0.00152,0.000377,0.009379,-0.007612,0.000866,0.008134,0.008073,0.000359
Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpCentre1,0.133173,0.140143,0.065619,0.058463,0.033852,0.022869,0.006815,0.009923,0.000409,-0.018041,-0.003897,-0.001798,0.010109,0.00867,-0.007465,-0.000133,0.002999,0.0019,-0.00088,-0.001251,-0.009982,-0.000742,0.006409,0.006145,-0.002874
Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpCentre2,0.135449,0.142174,0.065619,0.056848,0.036007,0.021475,0.004935,0.006,0.005522,-0.01877,-0.004709,-0.005245,0.011744,0.011698,-0.005157,0.00053,0.002868,0.000887,-0.003897,-0.003252,-0.009358,-0.001978,0.007025,0.015785,-0.002634
Prussian_Poland:PL_WlkpWest1,0.137726,0.13405,0.07467,0.062339,0.046778,0.027052,0.009635,0.00923,-0.002863,-0.017677,-0.005846,-0.01109,0.007879,0.017478,-0.007329,0.005304,0.002738,0.003801,0.000126,0.001626,0.00287,0.001731,0.00037,-0.005784,0.002515
Prussian_Poland:PL_Kuyavia1,0.125205,0.13405,0.071653,0.04845,0.039392,0.021753,0.00517,0.009461,0.003272,-0.014032,-0.010718,-0.006744,0.011298,0.018166,-0.002579,0.003713,0.000391,-0.00038,0.001885,-0.003877,-0.009608,0.001607,0.002218,0.000964,-0.005269
Prussian_Poland:PL_Kociewie1,0.126344,0.121864,0.07203,0.058786,0.037545,0.023148,0.013866,0.004615,-0.000205,-0.018588,-0.004709,-0.004046,0.002973,0.010184,-0.003664,0.010607,0.022687,0.002027,0.005279,0.007003,-0.003119,-0.00643,0.013064,0.00012,-0.001916
And for comparison some Poles from other regions, including Mazovians:
Code: PL_Mazovia1,0.129758,0.125926,0.061471,0.071706,0.040315,0.026216,0.010575,0.014999,-0.010226,-0.022597,-0.009581,-0.009442,0.016204,0.012111,-0.009772,-0.006762,0.008605,-0.000507,0.004274,0.00075,-0.003369,-0.009398,0.014913,0.003012,-0.005269
PL_Mazovia2,0.12862,0.138112,0.069767,0.061693,0.042469,0.027889,0.0094,0.006692,-0.001432,-0.022962,-0.00406,-0.01154,0.024678,0.030965,-0.015336,-0.011403,-0.010952,0.000253,0.003017,0.002001,-0.005241,-0.006183,0.000739,-0.007832,0.004191
PL_Malopolska1,0.129758,0.118817,0.069013,0.059755,0.035391,0.021475,0.01081,0.008077,0.002659,-0.017312,-0.002111,-0.007943,0.020218,0.009496,-0.010179,0.010475,0.020731,0.001267,0.001508,0.003877,-0.004367,-0.007048,0.00949,-0.001325,-0.002994
PL_KresySouth1,0.12862,0.137096,0.066373,0.05814,0.033237,0.028726,0.008225,0.010846,-0.003886,-0.020046,-0.002111,-0.010041,0.014271,0.020231,-0.011808,-0.002917,0.008996,0.002027,0.003268,-0.003377,-0.000749,-0.000618,0.004683,0.000241,0.002874
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10-08-2024, 04:09 PM
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Compare samples from Early Medieval Wielkopolska and samples from Modern Wielkopolska in Global25:
Code: Early_Medieval_Wielkopolska(n=40),0.1281648,0.1243262,0.0755374,0.0691947,0.041923,0.0256997,0.0086249,0.0124956,-0.0003477,-0.0262967,-0.002314,-0.0108129,0.017029,0.0221779,-0.008978,0.0013623,0.003742,-0.0012415,0.0037772,0.0000782,-0.0035406,-0.0054036,0.0074811,-0.0058562,0.0019818
I included also one sample from Kuyavia:
Code: Modern_Wielkopolska(n=11),0.1323451,0.1354346,0.0687045,0.057817,0.0381328,0.022438,0.0079474,0.0079508,0.0008739,-0.0186377,-0.0045174,-0.006267,0.0122712,0.0151135,-0.0062555,0.0025915,0.0024536,0.0005298,0.0007541,0.0010116,-0.005218,-0.0018322,0.006039,0.0044473,-0.0020792
As you can see the Early_Medieval_Wielkopolska is much more eastern-shifted than the Modern one:
Distance to: Early_Medieval_Wielkopolska(n=40)
0.01116832 Belarusian
0.01296220 Lithuanian_PA
0.01399789 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.01440411 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.01442388 Russian_Smolensk
(...)
Distance to: Modern_Wielkopolska(n=11)
0.01257944 Polish
0.01779935 Polish_Kashubian
0.02003669 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.02011046 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.02064259 Polish_Silesian
(...)
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Early Medieval samples included in the average:
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SpoilerCode: Medieval_Markowice:PCA0156,0.124067,0.119832,0.073916,0.065892,0.03693,0.034582,0.003525,0.014769,-0.008999,-0.02041,-0.001461,-0.02278,0.011893,0.033442,-0.017644,-0.005304,0.002868,0.001774,0.002765,-0.003877,0.001996,-0.012242,0.003574,-0.016026,0.003353
Medieval_Markowice:PCA0158,0.12862,0.126941,0.068259,0.055879,0.040623,0.02259,0.00611,0.009692,-0.0045,-0.030069,-0.000325,-0.012889,0.016799,0.027387,-0.013029,-0.013524,-0.010561,0.001014,0.014581,-0.007504,-0.004118,-0.001237,0.001479,-0.003615,0.007424
Medieval_Legowo:PCA0165,0.132035,0.117801,0.082589,0.084949,0.044316,0.030957,0.014571,0.01523,-0.002454,-0.019864,-0.006171,-0.020682,0.036422,0.029314,-0.003393,-0.010475,-0.004694,-0.012542,0.000503,-0.005878,-0.003993,-0.008779,0.005546,0.001807,0.002754
Medieval_Legowo:PCA0166,0.118376,0.132019,0.067505,0.077843,0.032621,0.044344,0.0047,0.014999,-0.006136,-0.03426,0.005684,-0.004946,0.010704,0.029864,0.000814,-0.019756,-0.008866,0.004054,0.009804,0.002501,-0.00262,-0.001607,0.013434,-0.011688,0.00946
Medieval_Legowo:PCA0167,0.121791,0.125926,0.080327,0.084303,0.041546,0.029562,0.00376,0.009923,0.001432,-0.018588,-0.003897,-0.016635,0.015609,0.029176,-0.002579,0.003182,0.005346,0.005448,0.000754,-0.002001,-0.005241,0.001484,0.011092,-0.007953,-0.001078
Medieval_Legowo:PCA0169,0.130897,0.121864,0.084852,0.080427,0.0437,0.039045,0.022091,0.025845,0.02127,-0.033167,-0.006496,-0.012589,0.020812,0.022708,0.000271,0.008884,0.016168,0.000507,0.017346,0.002001,0.003619,-0.013107,0.000739,-0.007712,0.008622
Medieval_Lad:PCA0181,0.135449,0.123895,0.068636,0.073321,0.046162,0.028168,0.001175,0.015692,0.002659,-0.02442,0.000974,-0.009292,0.01665,0.0139,-0.029723,0.002784,-0.00013,-0.006334,-0.001508,-0.005253,-0.003244,0.000866,0.006532,-0.021328,-0.017244
Medieval_Lad:PCA0182,0.122929,0.131003,0.084852,0.0646,0.043393,0.034861,0.007285,0.000923,0.008181,-0.033167,-0.008282,-0.015736,0.031367,0.025323,-0.016286,-0.007823,0.007171,-0.005194,0.005782,0.00963,-0.008984,-0.011747,-0.000246,-0.014821,-0.001437
Medieval_Lad:PCA0185,0.134311,0.116786,0.080327,0.078812,0.036007,0.024542,0.00705,0.02123,0.008181,-0.032256,0.009094,-0.003147,0.004014,0.019405,-0.008822,0.001458,0.00339,-0.004561,0.008925,0.003752,-0.000125,-0.010634,0.012571,0.001446,0.014609
Medieval_Lad:PCA0187,0.136588,0.129988,0.064865,0.06137,0.049855,0.01757,0.012926,0.009923,0.010022,-0.013303,-0.01023,-0.007044,0.007284,0.026699,-0.009908,-0.00305,0.001825,0.005194,0.005782,-0.01063,0.001622,-0.013849,-0.000493,-0.000602,0.015567
Medieval_Lad:PCA0189,0.129758,0.127957,0.062225,0.077843,0.035699,0.03012,0.015981,0.020307,0.006749,-0.039363,-0.007307,-0.017534,0.005649,0.031103,-0.010993,0.005304,0.01017,-0.006334,0.012444,0.005503,-0.001248,0.002968,-0.000616,-0.005663,0.000838
Medieval_Lad:PCA0191,0.1161,0.136081,0.064111,0.048127,0.033852,0.022032,0.010105,0,0.001841,-0.020593,-0.005196,-0.019183,0.003568,0.025185,-0.005565,0.01074,-0.00013,-0.002154,0.001006,0.008004,0.006364,-0.019908,0.004067,-0.000843,-0.014011
Medieval_Lad:PCA0192,0.138864,0.123895,0.07203,0.057817,0.025851,0.019522,0.006815,0.019845,-0.008385,-0.019135,-0.006658,-0.003897,0.010555,0.023533,-0.020494,0.004773,0.022296,-0.0019,-0.010433,0.00963,0.004991,-0.010881,0.006162,-0.002289,-0.001197
Medieval_Lad:PCA0194,0.134311,0.11577,0.07995,0.070091,0.048932,0.027889,0.00564,0.003692,0.00859,-0.028429,-0.01153,-0.010341,0.016501,0.02835,-0.006786,0.004375,0.001565,0.003674,0.011187,-5e-04,-0.011605,-0.002597,0.008751,-0.009399,-0.002874
Medieval_Lad:PCA0197,0.124067,0.13405,0.074293,0.068153,0.042777,0.016733,0.017156,0.018461,0.000409,-0.031162,0.001949,-0.015436,0.015758,0.018441,-0.010993,0.00358,0.000782,0.001014,0.002388,-0.006628,0.006613,-0.000989,0.006162,-0.003615,0.010179
Medieval_Lad:PCA0198,0.127482,0.139128,0.06675,0.071706,0.040315,0.017012,0.012926,0.009461,-0.002454,-0.030798,0.001461,-0.006594,0.016055,0.007156,-0.009636,0.004773,-0.001434,0.003041,0.001885,0.003627,-0.014849,-0.009027,0.007025,-0.003615,0.004311
Medieval_Lad:PCA0199,0.129758,0.129988,0.076933,0.081073,0.059703,0.02259,0.001175,0.008538,0.007158,-0.021504,0.004384,-0.001948,0.013379,0.016102,-0.013165,0.001591,0.013951,-0.008615,0.005028,0.009505,0,-0.008656,0.007765,-0.011809,-0.000958
Medieval_Lad:PCA0203,0.129758,0.126941,0.070144,0.070414,0.033852,0.029562,0.00094,0.016153,0.00225,-0.022597,0.005846,-0.018284,0.014271,0.009496,-0.017236,0.009016,0.018384,-0.001647,-0.001885,0.006003,-0.003619,-0.008656,0.016022,0.003494,0.006586
Medieval_Lad:PCA0205,0.125205,0.129988,0.072784,0.04522,0.01508,0.009761,0.017156,0.011769,-0.005318,-0.028976,-0.001624,-0.013788,0.015015,-0.000688,0.007057,-0.003315,-0.004955,0.002787,-0.000628,0.008379,-0.00287,0.014096,0.021938,0.010483,-0.016046
Medieval_Lad:PCA0206,0.122929,0.122879,0.080327,0.070414,0.053548,0.017849,0.0047,0.003692,-0.00634,-0.034078,0.003248,-0.015137,0.013677,0.014863,-0.0057,0.015115,0.013299,0.005828,-0.005279,0.005002,-0.010232,0.001484,0.006902,-0.020846,0.018441
Medieval_Lad:PCA0211,0.130897,0.11577,0.077687,0.069445,0.051394,0.031794,0.002585,0.032076,-0.008999,-0.025878,-0.009581,-0.008243,0.017393,0.023671,-0.020765,-0.00053,0.015516,-0.012289,0.017221,-0.003126,-0.007612,-0.018424,0.016145,-0.006386,0.006466
Medieval_Oblaczkowo:PCA0216,0.127482,0.131003,0.07731,0.082365,0.050471,0.022869,0.015746,0.00923,-0.005522,-0.022597,-0.006983,-0.005845,0.018434,0.047755,0.012079,-0.003978,-0.01004,0.006714,0.001508,0.000875,-0.003868,-0.004946,0.01861,-0.016147,0.002515
Medieval_Oblaczkowo:PCA0225,0.121791,0.119832,0.076933,0.066538,0.041238,0.016176,0.014806,0.024691,-0.009204,-0.037723,0.001624,-0.012739,0.04222,0.021882,-0.009772,-0.00053,0.008475,0.004561,0.006034,-0.01138,-0.004866,-0.01793,-0.004067,0.006145,0.006945
Medieval_Rumin:PCA0244,0.126344,0.113739,0.084852,0.074613,0.032929,0.026495,0.004935,0.019845,0.011453,-0.028064,-0.000162,-0.016485,0.015015,0.03124,0.003664,0.009016,0.002608,0.002407,-0.000251,-0.003627,-0.009608,-0.004451,0.013804,-0.008194,0.00455
Medieval_Rumin:PCA0246,0.127482,0.113739,0.089755,0.061693,0.051086,0.036256,0.00047,0.016845,0.008999,-0.02278,0.012179,-0.013638,0.030178,0.018029,-0.0095,-0.012331,-0.014212,-0.001774,0.001634,0.003001,-0.002121,-0.006677,0.002342,-0.016147,0.005748
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0332,0.129758,0.119832,0.07467,0.046189,0.040931,0.020917,0.00846,0.017999,-0.007976,-0.01713,-0.01023,-0.013188,0.010109,0.021194,-0.019951,-0.000796,0.010952,0.000127,0.011439,0.000875,-0.013351,0.002102,-0.000246,-0.003615,-0.006945
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0333,0.124067,0.125926,0.09428,0.08075,0.044316,0.034582,0.018566,0.006,-0.001023,-0.035536,-0.004709,-0.008542,0.030029,0.024497,-0.014929,0.004508,0.03064,-0.00228,-0.001383,0.011756,0.009109,-0.008285,0.004314,-0.007109,0.006826
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0334,0.119514,0.131003,0.085984,0.068799,0.049855,0.030399,0.000705,0.005307,0.003272,-0.025878,-0.011692,-0.010491,-0.000149,0.017478,-0.001493,0.042031,0.025425,0.005701,0.007165,0.007754,-0.005989,0.00136,0.005423,-0.008073,-0.017483
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0335,0.132035,0.12491,0.065242,0.052003,0.038776,0.03012,0.012456,0.019153,-0.011862,-0.02442,-0.00341,-0.017834,0.026313,0.015138,-0.015065,0.010607,-0.011474,-0.005828,-0.000126,0.002751,0.004243,-0.00643,0.019103,-0.015785,-0.001557
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0339,0.121791,0.118817,0.060716,0.066215,0.04924,0.016455,0.012221,0.009461,0.001023,-0.023144,-0.005196,-0.002398,0.008771,0.014588,-0.007872,-0.010209,-0.012908,-0.004941,0.006913,-0.007879,0.001622,-0.005812,0.012571,0.008314,0.003832
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0340,0.133173,0.118817,0.087492,0.070737,0.039084,0.027889,0.012926,0.009692,-0.001432,-0.028429,-0.00341,-0.011989,0.023042,0.026286,-0.008686,-0.000398,0.004955,-0.006968,0.002388,0.010505,0.001373,-0.01286,0.002095,-0.012652,0.005269
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0343,0.133173,0.123895,0.073161,0.076551,0.044008,0.019243,0.007285,0.01823,-0.0045,-0.019317,0.005359,-0.002398,0.018731,0.027387,-0.016694,0.003182,-0.004303,0.003801,0.002514,-0.003377,-0.014974,-0.004699,0.013804,-0.004579,0.007305
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0344,0.134311,0.121864,0.07467,0.065892,0.033852,0.021753,0.00705,0.017307,-0.009817,-0.034807,0.005359,-0.005245,0.019772,0.015827,-0.014251,0.003978,0.024903,-0.007981,-0.005154,-0.004127,-0.010731,0.006801,0.001849,-0.003735,-0.002754
Medieval_Dziekanowice:PCA0354,0.124067,0.127957,0.084475,0.074936,0.040623,0.023148,0.011986,0.01223,-0.003886,-0.0277,-0.001461,-0.01094,0.023191,0.025323,-0.012893,-0.001458,0.010822,-0.003421,0.001257,-0.003377,-0.004617,-0.008656,0.007395,-0.011327,-0.003233
Medieval_Dziekanowice:PCA0359,0.140002,0.119832,0.073539,0.075259,0.056318,0.027052,0.00564,0.014076,-0.003477,-0.034078,-0.008119,-0.003897,0.006392,0.02546,-0.002986,0.003845,0.01356,-0.002534,0.01169,0.003252,-0.000125,0.008656,-0.00456,-0.005904,0.002275
Medieval_Santok:PCA0376,0.132035,0.127957,0.07467,0.073967,0.049548,0.020359,0.00047,-0.00923,-0.007363,-0.01877,0.001786,-0.028325,0.01219,0.018717,0.001357,0.003713,0.008475,-0.006588,0.005531,0.003502,-0.029323,-0.005688,-0.004437,0.00735,0.034847
Medieval_Santok:PCA0399,0.132035,0.128972,0.07731,0.077843,0.035083,0.036535,0.008225,0.014538,0.003477,-0.030069,-0.003573,-0.000749,0.022596,0.026836,-0.012215,-0.006497,-0.008214,-0.007601,0.000503,-0.012381,0.004492,0.003339,0.011462,-0.001807,-0.016645
Medieval_Santok:PCA0426,0.129758,0.108662,0.074293,0.056525,0.038776,0.021753,0.01034,-0.007846,0.004909,-0.018953,-0.012829,-0.002098,0.021258,0.019542,-0.000407,0.012066,-0.01369,0.004181,0.006285,-0.015257,-0.003619,-0.005688,0.011216,0.00494,0.002874
Medieval_Poznan:PCA0549,0.1161,0.123895,0.069767,0.063954,0.029852,0.022869,0.013161,0.017768,-0.005113,-0.022233,0.002761,-0.008692,0.022299,0.013625,-0.007329,-0.007823,-0.012647,-0.003294,-0.003645,0.002626,0,-0.015086,0.006532,0.00723,0.00934
Medieval_Balczewo:PCA0551,0.127482,0.123895,0.069013,0.075259,0.054779,0.022032,0.001175,0.002308,-0.001023,-0.018224,-0.003735,-0.000899,0.017393,0.021882,-0.0076,-0.006232,-0.005607,0.003294,-0.00088,-0.010505,-0.004118,0.000247,0.027484,-0.022172,-0.018202
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